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From: Bart.Lansing at kohls.com (Bart.Lansing@...ls.com)
Subject: Super Worm


Valdis...

> However, your analogy breaks down here:
> 
> I have enough sense to know the limits of my knowledge and stay away 
from
> scalpels.  It's the heart surgeons that put down scalpels and start 
fooling
> around with that Administrator account that tick me off.
> 
> And given that I'd get arrested the 3rd time I tried to perform surgery,
> I think I'm morally justified if I get ticked the 3rd time that surgeon
> practices sysadminning without a license. ;)

How the heck did Doc get admin rights? <grin>



Bart Lansing
Manager, Desktop Services
Kohl's IT


Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote on 04/19/2004 05:35:51 PM:

> On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:01:49 CDT, Bart.Lansing@...ls.com  said:
> 
> > "...without those dimwits..." "...stupidity of end users..."
> > 
> > sheesh....ok...show of hands please; how many of us systems wizards 
can do 
> > the jobs the "dimwits" are doing?  You infosec guys at hospitals...do 
any 
> > heart transplants lately?  Infosec guy at investment bank...you 
structure 
> > any billion dollar mergers last week?  No?  Well what not??  Are you 
some 
> > kind of dimwit?? Are you stupid???
> 
> No, I don't pretend to know how to do a heart transplant, or 
> understand all the
> details of what my researchers are doing.  They explain what 
> computer resources
> they need to get their work done, and it's *my* job to talk to them, in
> language they can understand, and figure out what they need:
> 
> "I need e-mail - with pictures.."
> "How big a picture?"
> "They're x-rays of horse joints"
> "Can you show me an example?"
> 
> <poke around on disk, find how many megabytes one is, and how many a day 
they
> need, and now long to retain them, and stuff like that - things that 
*they*
> know the answer to - 25/day, need to keep for a year>
> 
> And in a perfect world, I return with a complete solution - 
> hardware, software,
> training, and support.  In the real world, I come back with as much of 
it as I
> can swing out of the resources available.
> 
> However, your analogy breaks down here:
> 
> I have enough sense to know the limits of my knowledge and stay away 
from
> scalpels.  It's the heart surgeons that put down scalpels and start 
fooling
> around with that Administrator account that tick me off.
> 
> And given that I'd get arrested the 3rd time I tried to perform surgery,
> I think I'm morally justified if I get ticked the 3rd time that surgeon
> practices sysadminning without a license. ;)


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