full-disclosure - no more public exploits

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Message-ID: <web-34741527@cgp.agava.net>
From: demidov at gleg.net (Evgeny Demidov)
Subject: no more public exploits

Hello,

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>nicolas vigier wrote:
>
>| On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Dave Aitel wrote:
>|
>|> Well, if it's that much of an issue, you can always buy your
>|> exploits from a commercial source, such as Immunity
>|> (http://www.immunitysec.com/CANVAS/ . We have an LSASS (one
>|> exploit fits all) and a PCT exploit (ported from SP0-4), so you
>|> can show all your management exactly why they should patch. And
>|> you can also feel secure that the exploits you download aren't
>|> trojaned when you're using something with commercial support. At
>|> $995 for a full site license, including source, CANVAS is cheaper
>|> than the alternative...
>|
>|
>| This is interesting ... This mean that anyone who have enought
>| money can get the exploits they want. And if people can get theses
>| exploits as easily, an admin cannot ignore them, and there is no
>| reason to avoid a public release because the people who really want
>| them for a bad action aldready have them (they only need money).
>|
>| And this program seems pretty usefull ... Does any open source
>| program similar to this one aldready exists ?
>|
>Well, we only sell to corporations for the most part, but KPMG would
>qualify. Many of KPMG's competition use it. :>
>
>The open-source "similar" would be Metasploit, but it doesn't have
>commercial support (yet) :>
>Dave Aitel
>Immunity, Inc.
>http://www.immunitysec.com/CANVAS/ "Fun for all ages"

Well, there is another commercial alternative - VulnDisco 
(http://www.gleg.net/index.php?sub=1&id=vulndisco). 

Some of the exploits already have Metasploit modules for 
them (modules were written at client's request). 

Best regards,
-Evgeny Demidov