full-disclosure - morning_wood is really a blackhat

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From: myemailaccount at fastmail.fm (Jimmy)
Subject: morning_wood is really a blackhat

Or even:

"To the human, ethics and laws have holes, just like anything else."

If ethics and laws were without holes then they would be static, never
changing, and never debated about imo. Everybody will have their own
interpretation on them, biased by their own opinion.



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Van: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] Namens Ray P
Verzonden: Saturday, May 01, 2004 15:21
Aan: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Onderwerp: Re: [Full-Disclosure] morning_wood is really a blackhat

You also could have written:

"To the lawyer, ethics and laws have holes, just like anything else."

instead of

"To the hacker, ethics and laws have holes, just like anything else."

Ray

>From: "Willem Koenings" <isec@...ope.com>
>To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
>Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] morning_wood is really a blackhat
>Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 06:13:47 -0500
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Slotto Corleone
>Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:45:39 -0800
>To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
>Subject: [Full-Disclosure] morning_wood is really a blackhat
>
>But who isn't? :)
>
>Recently i read the book "Stealing the Network - How to Own the Box"
>Something from there:
>
>"It's strange how hackers' minds work.You might think that white hat
>hackers would be on one end of the spectrum and black hat hackers on the
>other. On the contrary, they are both at the same end of the spectrum, with
>the rest of the world on the other end.There really is no difference 
>between
>responsible hacking and evil hacking. Either way, it's hacking.The only 
>dif-ference
>is the content. Perhaps that's why it's so natural for a black hat to go
>white, and why it's so easy for a white hat to go black.The line between 
>the
>two is fine, mostly defined by ethics and law. To the hacker, ethics and 
>laws
>have holes, just like anything else."
>
>W.
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