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From: cheekypeople at sec33.com (Lee)
Subject: Determinig VMWare environment (was: Unpacking Sasser)

That shows only for workstation version, ESX server is very different
product and setup.  Thanks for the heads up I will test the files on a ESX
server.

Would the backdoor be found by the package though, would it be looking for
that?

Regards


Lee @ STS
http://www.seethrusec.co.uk
Building Knowledge and Security..
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Spiro Trikaliotis" <trik-news@....de>
To: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 9:52 AM
Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Determinig VMWare environment (was: Unpacking
Sasser)


> Hello,
>
> * On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 08:56:51AM +0100 Lee wrote:
>
> > I am intrigued by your points of malware understanding the environment
> >
> > > "VM environment can be sensed by the code being tested and choose to
> > > act entirely differently from how it would otherwise."
> >
> > I have never seen this before, have you any pointers for me?  I use
> > ESX server alot and malware been able to detect my environment is
> > something I havent seen before. Would kind of go against the very
> > nature of ESX server, like said, very interested on this as it would
> > help to safe guard our testing environments.
>
> there should be some ways to accomplish that. The VMWare "backdoor" port
> might be one (!) good starting point:
>
> http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/backdoor.html#top
>
> Best regards,
>    Spiro.
>
> -- 
> I'm subscribed to the mailing lists I'm posting,
> so please refrain from Cc:ing me. Thank you.
> :r .signature
> :wq
>
> _______________________________________________
> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
> Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
>
Lee @ STS
http://www.seethrusec.co.uk
Building Knowledge and Security..
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Spiro Trikaliotis" <trik-news@....de>
To: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 9:52 AM
Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Determinig VMWare environment (was: Unpacking
Sasser)


> Hello,
>
> * On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 08:56:51AM +0100 Lee wrote:
>
> > I am intrigued by your points of malware understanding the environment
> >
> > > "VM environment can be sensed by the code being tested and choose to
> > > act entirely differently from how it would otherwise."
> >
> > I have never seen this before, have you any pointers for me?  I use
> > ESX server alot and malware been able to detect my environment is
> > something I havent seen before. Would kind of go against the very
> > nature of ESX server, like said, very interested on this as it would
> > help to safe guard our testing environments.
>
> there should be some ways to accomplish that. The VMWare "backdoor" port
> might be one (!) good starting point:
>
> http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/backdoor.html#top
>
> Best regards,
>    Spiro.
>
> -- 
> I'm subscribed to the mailing lists I'm posting,
> so please refrain from Cc:ing me. Thank you.
> :r .signature
> :wq
>
> _______________________________________________
> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
> Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
>



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