full-disclosure - Learn from history?

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Message-ID: <NHBBKOKFNKAIECDLOKDCOELBEOAA.alerta@redsegura.com>
From: alerta at redsegura.com (Alerta Redsegura)
Subject: Learn from history?

Ng, Kenneth (US) wrote:

> Your missing an important element: what are the odds of the event
> happening?

When we talk about risk, we are already taking into account the odds of the
event happening:

R = E x p

Where:

R = Risk
E = event
p = probability of the event happening



> Lots of places refuse to act until there is an actual worm that
> is trashing businesses show up in their trade publication
> (in other words, full-disclosure, and slashdot.org don't count).
> Trouble is, with the speed of today's worms, by the time it shows
> up on cnn.com, its too late.

Unfortunately, yes.





I?igo Koch
Red Segura



>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
>> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com]On Behalf Of Alerta
>> Redsegura
>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 11:08 AM
>> To: Full-Disclosure
>> Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Learn from history?
>> The first thing to determine with the company management is: What
>> happens to
>> the company if their network is down 1h? 2h? One day? One week?  How much
>> money does that represent?  If data is lost, how much does it cost to
>> re-build it (resources, time spent, etc.)?
>>
>> If you clearly assess the risks and come up with a solution showing an
>> adequate cost-benefit ratio and you compare it to the possible losses,
>> chances are that management will approve your proposal, regardless of the
>> company size (from SMB to Fortune-100).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I?igo Koch
>> Red Segura
>>
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