From: geggam692000 at yahoo.com (D B)
Subject: Wireless ISPs

Hi Brian 

Sit down sometime inside a wireless ISPs area and run
kismet. You can see someone connect to a service via
SSL, then immediately after they purchase something
they check the email. Guess what ? the Credit card #
and address are in that email.

Doesn't take some 15 year veteran of the internet to
see how this is a bad thing. 

Go flame some newb who has no brain.

Dan Becker

--- Brian Toovey <btoovey@...global.com> wrote:
> Dan,
> 
> Your post is troubling, if not confusing -
> 
> You are talking about two seperate issues - email
> confirmations with companies that you buy goods and
> services from online and wireless data transmission.
>  Most wireless "computer equipment" that is sold now
> by default comes with some kind of encryption,
> completely hackable but "encrypted" - so it becomes
> the end user's responsibility to use the proper
> equipment / software to protect yourself.
> 
> The other issue, automatic replies with sensitive
> data, are best directed to the customer service
> department of the company in transgression.
> 
> Dan, the internet is an unsafe place for sensitive
> data.  I would suggest some study in different
> encryption methodlogies to educate yourself. 
> Education leads to positive, well thought out data
> communication, which leads to peace of mind.
> 
> Regards,
> Brian
> 
> On May 11, 2004 02:33 PM, D B
> <geggam692000@...oo.com> wrote:
> 
> > I'm not real sure how to post this, nor am I sure
> of
> > the scope. I am still learning about computers.
> > 
> > 
> > All transactions done via secure websites are
> secure,
> > however the auto mailing feature to confirm orders
> > sometimes contains sensitive data. When the
> customer
> > is on a wireless connection, be it ISP or home LAN
> > that data is broadcasted in the clear for anyone
> > within range to eavesdrop. A wired internet
> connection
> > limits the number of people who have access to
> this
> > data simply by the nature of the internet putting
> it
> > within acceptable risk.
> > 
> > It is legal according to US law to eavesdrop on
> > wireless connections. 
> > 
> >
>
http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/wiretap2510_2522.htm
> > 
> > The only solutions I can offer are one of two
> things. 
> > 
> > 1. Quit sending auto confirmations with sensitive
> data
> > 
> > 2. Encrypt all wireless transmissions at least
> making
> > someone who gains access to this data
> prosecutable. 
> > 
> > Please direct all flames to /dev/null
> > 
> > Dan Becker
> > 
> > 
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