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From: guninski at (Georgi Guninski)
Subject: New therad: sasser, costs, support etc alltogether

quite agree.
if i remember correctly, the americans say:
"one billg, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all".

When I answered where I wanted to go today, they just hung up -- Unknown

On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 05:27:48PM +0200, Radule Soskic wrote:
> I can't post this to all the threads that I would like to, so I'm
> opening a new one. 
> Follow this:
> 1. MS is wrongdoing by releasing (and charging for use of) software that
> has bugs in it. Users of such software have losses in time/money by
> trying to keep up with applying pathches, or just by trying to keep the
> uptime high.
> 2. Admins are wrongdoing by not applying patches to the systems they
> maintain. There are losses tied to such misspractice, too.
> 3. Worm authors are wrongdoing by writing software that propagate
> through the networks by exploiting all of the above. Again, the losses
> occur in time/money spent to remove the worms from the systems affected.
> It is obvious that almost every legal system in the world treats #3 as
> crime, while #2 and #1 are broadly tolerated. Noone here is against the
> book of law, but it just seems to be in contrast to the natural and
> intuitive feeling of justice that majority of people might have
> regarding the issues like these. See - only one of the three wrongdoers
> is being punished. 
> Is it right? Or - is it wrong? 
> BTW, I have a funny feeling that damages/losses caused by #3 might very
> often be far less than the ones caused by #2 and #1. 
> Am I alone?
> cikasole
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