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Message-ID: <40AA2757.7040801@cbothmer.org>
From: caspar at cbothmer.org (Caspar Bothmer)
Subject: Agobot author is a pacifist?

Hello all,

Frank Knobbe wrote:
> Not really a topic for Full-Disclosure. But since you asked...

I will only answer once on this list for Tobias offered an off-topic
discussion before.


> I think more countries should have that. Not so much for the military
> service, but for the civil service. I grew up in Germany and spent 18
> months doing civil service, caring for a 14 year old quadriplegic boy.
> (After those 18 month, that boy was like a son to me. One of the most
> rewarding things I ever did).

You describe two wholly different things.  Without this compulsatory
service you wouldn't have done the work you did and describe as "most
regarding".  You aren't the only one.

But that isn't anything firmly connected to the compulsatory service
itself.  It is the deep social character of mankind to help others which
gets used -- and in my opinion abused.  So your deeply social behaviour
wasn't a result of the compulsatory service though it showed up within
this service.

The problem of that kind of service isn't that one can do good things
but that all people get forced to do services which not all confirm to.
 You can't include all types of services within compulsatory service so
all people would be satisfied.  It's a forced service by definition and
that means that there is pretty hard punishment if you don't comply with it.

In Germany you can put to jail for up to 5 years and they can draw one
more than once so you can be punished several times.  That is practice
though the range isn't up to the maximum punishment.


bye

caspar
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