full-disclosure - irc over ssl

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Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.43.0405242334290.26070-100000@tundra.winternet.com>
From: dufresne at winternet.com (Ron DuFresne)
Subject: irc over ssl

>
> But it's true that IRC is fun and still can be a great help in WAN management
> coordination... same as talkd.  It's just one of those things that have been
> frowned upon by the hordes of non Unix people that came in IT later and was
> re-invented the wrong way in group-ware stuff.   As a result, hackers have IRC
> and instant communications from Berlin to Tokyo and we Sysadmins must still
> wait to reserve a conference room to talk to other sysadmins when a big DoS
> attack appears.  Why? Because high management considers IRC a "hacking
> thing".  Can't win that war.

Which can be a "shame/pain/something one learns to deal with".  Yet
remains a shame that many managers do not understand that an internal,
restricted server can/could provide alot of benefit, with little more risk
from internal users then many other production apps.

I'm willing to bet there are a number of more enlightened shops that have
used this tool and benefited, of course, I'm willing to bet there are one
or two failures that might surface as well.  Tools are what one makes of
them...

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne
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