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Message-ID: <20040620201941.25fb20bb@michael.bluesuperman.com>
From: michael.gale at bluesuperman.com (Michael Gale)
Subject: M$ Getting Better?

Open minded ??? 

It is kind of like the country song:

"... if you break my heart shame on you, if you break my heart a second
time shame on me.."

Microsoft has been says for years that they are improving security ...
but yet you still get screwed on monthly bases with worms and DOS
attacks that bring your company IIS server and all the desktops.

(Thank god we use Apache servers)

Just because M$ says their making a AV doesn't mean a thing ... sure I
have a open mind.. I believe they will make a AV .... but I still think
it will be a piece of crap like everything else.

Oh ... except M$ Office ... that is the only good thing I believe they
have made.

Michael

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 13:19:12 -0400
"joe" <mvp@...ware.net> wrote:

> As an instructor, you forgot an important part...
> 
> Instructions/ideas on what you think they should do to get better.
> 
> What would it take for them to get that "A" in your class in terms of
> AV and security? Is there anything that makes sense from a business
> perspective(recall they are a business not a humanitarian fund
> dedicated to furthering knowledge and technology for the sake of fun)?
> Or is it simply a point that it is fun and well accepted to take pot
> shots?
> 
> I would expect seeing the "M$" in your post the answer may be more
> obvious than I would prefer. I like thinking instructors teaching
> impressionable minds are open minded themselves.
> 
> 
>   joe
> 
> --
> Anyone can complain and tear down, it takes a special teacher and
> person to build up and correct and teach. 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Robert
> Guess Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 11:05 AM
> To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: [Full-Disclosure] M$ Getting Better?
> 
> After reading the M$ AV thread I have to give my $2 (inflation)...
> 
> Yes, Microsoft is improving... but I like to explain it as follows: 
> "If a criminal goes from committing murder to robbing 7-11's does it
> mean that they are a good person?  After all, they are getting
> better."
> 
> 
> 
> Robert Guess
> Instructor, Information Systems Technology Tidewater Community College
> (757) 822-5022
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