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From: nasirghaznavi at gmail.com (Nasir Ghaznavi)
Subject: M$ Getting Better?

Actually this time it could (dreaming) be better, remember they bought
an AV company some months back.

Nasir Ghaznavi

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:19:41 -0600, Michael Gale
<michael.gale@...esuperman.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Open minded ???
> 
> It is kind of like the country song:
> 
> "... if you break my heart shame on you, if you break my heart a second
> time shame on me.."
> 
> Microsoft has been says for years that they are improving security ...
> but yet you still get screwed on monthly bases with worms and DOS
> attacks that bring your company IIS server and all the desktops.
> 
> (Thank god we use Apache servers)
> 
> Just because M$ says their making a AV doesn't mean a thing ... sure I
> have a open mind.. I believe they will make a AV .... but I still think
> it will be a piece of crap like everything else.
> 
> Oh ... except M$ Office ... that is the only good thing I believe they
> have made.
> 
> Michael
> 
> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 13:19:12 -0400
> "joe" <mvp@...ware.net> wrote:
> 
> > As an instructor, you forgot an important part...
> >
> > Instructions/ideas on what you think they should do to get better.
> >
> > What would it take for them to get that "A" in your class in terms of
> > AV and security? Is there anything that makes sense from a business
> > perspective(recall they are a business not a humanitarian fund
> > dedicated to furthering knowledge and technology for the sake of fun)?
> > Or is it simply a point that it is fun and well accepted to take pot
> > shots?
> >
> > I would expect seeing the "M$" in your post the answer may be more
> > obvious than I would prefer. I like thinking instructors teaching
> > impressionable minds are open minded themselves.
> >
> >
> >   joe
> >
> > --
> > Anyone can complain and tear down, it takes a special teacher and
> > person to build up and correct and teach.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
> > [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Robert
> > Guess Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 11:05 AM
> > To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> > Subject: [Full-Disclosure] M$ Getting Better?
> >
> > After reading the M$ AV thread I have to give my $2 (inflation)...
> >
> > Yes, Microsoft is improving... but I like to explain it as follows:
> > "If a criminal goes from committing murder to robbing 7-11's does it
> > mean that they are a good person?  After all, they are getting
> > better."
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Guess
> > Instructor, Information Systems Technology Tidewater Community College
> > (757) 822-5022
> >
> > ()  ascii ribbon campaign
> > /\  against html email
> >
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