lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
From: frank at knobbe.us (Frank Knobbe)
Subject: (no subject)

On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 09:47, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote:
> Software gets named over days/weeks.  They crank out a new name for an element
> every few years. These things need names in *MINUTES* - often while the various
> A/V companies are looking at different copies of a polymorphic, multi-attack
> piece of malware.

Hey, I didn't say it would be easy, did I?

> 5 blind men and an elephant time... and you want them to agree on a name before
> they even agree they're looking at the same thing???

Obviously not at time of research. But these days everyone is keeping an
ear on the ground... I mean Internet... while they are doing research.
Once one company, which is working on a new strain they term BigNasty,
finds out 3 others are discussion this (on the Internet or private AV
channels) as the SuckThis virus, then they could adopt that name to
avoid confusion.

I didn't say it was easy, but they could at least make an effort.

Here we are a year later and still call it Bagle or Beagle, either one.
I'm still confused if MyDoom-O and MyDoom-M are the same thing or not.

BTW: Perhaps the analogy to medicine was misplaced. I just thought in
term of diseases. How many different names do we have for ...say...
chicken pox or colitis or diabetes? Imagine you had 5 different names
for the flu. I could come up with a dozen Monty Python sketches taking
place in the doctors office.... 

I didn't say it was easy, but we should "encourage" the AV industry to
work towards such a standardization. It may even be beneficial for them.

Sing with me Valdis....
"I say tomato, you say tomato,
I say potato, you say potato, 
I say Beagle, you say Bagle,
and others are calling it something else."


Regards,
Frank  (throwing rocks at the glass palace)

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 187 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
Url : http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20040810/a860e14b/attachment.bin

Powered by blists - more mailing lists