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Message-ID: <6d456c360408170905732496d@mail.gmail.com>
From: tremaine at gmail.com (Tremaine)
Subject: lame bitching about xpsp2

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:34:47 +0000, ktabic <lists@...bic.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 19:13 -0400, joe wrote:
> > Absolutely you can buy machines without Microsoft Software. As for your
> > second comment, there probably are cases that this is true but there are
> > also laptops you can buy with Linux on them or no OS on them. My last 3
> > machines I have purchased have all had no OS on them. You can even buy a
> > desktop from Dell with Linux though I understand from my Dell friends they
> > don't sell very well.
> > 
> But there aren't that many companies that do that. So most people end up
> buying MS software even if they don't want it.
> And have you tried getting the refund for the cra^H^H^Hunwanted
> software?


Rather than step into the entirety of this, I'll address this single
point and move along.  Companies such as IBM and Dell which are two of
the bigger players provide the option of having no OS or linux
installed rather than Windows, and they aren't alone.  A couple years
ago, no, there would have been no option.

Not so today.  The problem is consumer education.  If the consumer
doesn't *know* they have other options they aren't going to go looking
for them.  I'd be curious to see how many salesdroids actually mention
the fact you can get the pc/laptop with an alternate or no OS.


-- 
Tremaine
IT Security Consultant


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