From: gshively at pivx.com (Geoff Shively)
Subject: Where is security industry gng??

Think about it this way, security was once focused on simple solutions
to solve problems (network architecture with security in mind, device/OS
hardening, etc). 

Let us recap the history of the industry so that I can set the stage for
where I think it is headed.

In the last 5-7 years the security problem has grown complex and sheer
number of threats have skyrocketed, which brought to life an industry of
complex solutions to a combat a complex problem. IMHO, the wrong way to
deal with the problem.

Companies began popping up left and right with the latest and greatest
network security appliance to position themselves on the network (in
some odd or obscure location) and perform tasks that are only useful if
you have one of the companies other 5 security devices working in
tandem. Odd behavioral and AI technologies had been all the rage for in
01'-03' as IDS rose to the top of the market. With an expensive and
complicated network of sensors and reactive response units in every
corner of a network it was not wonder that Richard Stiennon from Gartner
released the "IDS is Dead" report
(http://www.nwfusion.com/news/2003/1006ids.html) back in 03. 

2003 IDS Company: "Oh no, IDS is dead, someone call marketing and tell
them we are now IPS" 

We have all seen the move from IDS marketing to IPS marketing, the same
stuff, repackaged, repositioned, and resold to enterprise. Fortunately
the cream is rising to the top and old re-branded IDS/IPS solutions are
being shelved by enterprise. 

I would like to say that we have seen the last of people installing
overly complex 'solutions' to cure their acute security pains... but we
have not. 


So, to where I think the industry is headed. 

[*] Reactive technologies die out, they cannot react fast enough to
modern day threats
[*] Security moves back to the host, where it is needed most. Harden the
OS. Helps solve internal attack and propagation issues and also
external.
[*] Routers and switches will begin to incorporate more security
features by default. This will keep perimeter security moving along.
[*] A handful security companies will fall due to unprofessional
business practices, and a handful will find themselves acquired by the
bigger fish. 
[*] The consumer will become more aware of the problem due to in your
face spyware/malware that is crippling home computers. Anyone else have
their grandmother calling them because their Wintel box takes 30 minutes
to boot and is relatively unusable?

I hope to see people focusing on solutions more so than problems, but we
will see about that one.


Cheers,
Geoff Shively
Founder, Chief Scientist
PivX Solutions
23 Corporate Plaza
Newport Beach, CA 92661
http://www.pivx.com
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[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Barry
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Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 11:23 AM
To: Jan Muenther
Cc: n30; Mailing List - Full-Disclosure
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Where is security industry gng??

Jan Muenther wrote:

>>Network security -> application security -> software security -> ????
>>
>>What do u guys think??
>>    
>>
>
>job security?
>
>  
>
or insecurity?

POC:

    #!/bin/sh

    if [ ! $jobsecurity ]; then
        export insecurity='high';
    else
        unset insecurity;
    fi;

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