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Message-ID: <20040922125552.35c02563.vh@helith.net>
From: vh at helith.net (van Helsing)
Subject: Scandal: IT Security firm hires the author of
  Sasser worm

Larry... free your mind. NOW...

But it's nice to see that not just completly newcomers with no mind are
here *looks to brad*.
Sometimes I ask myself why this list isn't moderated... ;)

vh


On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:14:56 +1000
"Brad Griffin" <b.griffin@....edu.au> wrote:

>  C'mon Larry, you and I know that your comments below were made purely
> for flame value.
> 
> 'He loosed an attack he had good reason to believe would do damage to
> innumerable people...' 
> 
> You're a journalist...no, you're an *editor*. Your statement above is
> far too general to be of any substance. Damage? To people? None that I
> saw. I understand that Sasser annoyed the shit out of a whole mess of
> sysadmins and security boffins, but I didn't see it damage anyone. 
> 
> Don't use the power of creative writing to cloud an issue Larry.
> Businesses had to spend some more on overtime. Some businesses lost
> money because they couldn't conduct business, but 'innumerable people'
> damaged? Not likely.
> 
> If you honestly believe that this person should be in gaol for a long
> time, then you'd best start lobbying for more prisons, because there
> are plenty out there doing similar things in other fields that should
> be in gaol too (according to your opinion).
> 
> Oh, one more thing, 
> 
> 'loosed an attack'
> 
> 
> You should be writing for the CNN Iraq team, not a computer security
> section in eWeek.
> 
> Cheers,
> Brad 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Larry
> Seltzer
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 3:29 AM
> To: 'Barry Fitzgerald'
> Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Scandal: IT Security firm hires the
> author of Sasser worm
> 
> >>He wrote a worm.  Big freaking deal.  
> 
> Yeah, very big freaking deal. He loosed an attack he had good reason
> to believe would do damage to innumerable people all over the world.
> He belongs in jail and for a long time, if only to send a message that
> such behavior is wrong. 
> 
> And anyone who trusts him with their computers is an idiot.
> 
> Larry Seltzer
> eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
> http://security.eweek.com/
> http://blog.ziffdavis.com/seltzer
> larryseltzer@...fdavis.com 
> 
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