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From: James.Cupps at (
Subject: Rootkit For Spyware? Hide your adware from

True, points taken.


James Cupps
Information Security Officer

-----Original Message-----
From: Harlan Carvey [] 
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:38 AM
Cc: Cupps, James;
Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Rootkit For Spyware? Hide your adware from



> It depends on which kit they based it on. My guess
> is these guys weren't
> good enough to do the coding themselves so they
> stole someone else's code.

That, or they're learning (rootkit coding training via
Blackhat), or they're simply purchasing it (there are
folks who do custom rootkit coding for hire).

> Of course I can' t think of any rootkits under any
> kind of license so I
> guess it isn't really stealing. Maybe the kits'
> authors should track these
> bozo's down and ask for some compensation. They are
> probably good enough to find them.

I don't see a correlation between coding and tracking
someone down.  Also, as stated, there are some who are
already writing rootkits for pay.

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