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From: macmanus at gmail.com (macmanus@...il.com)
Subject: Rootkit For Spyware? Hide your adware from all Adware removers and Anti-viruses

Because you have never seen it means it doesn't exist?  If it was
"COMPLETELY hidden", maybe you just never found it.


> > It is quite possible to hide processes, reg keys and files, and is often
> > done by various malware.
>
> Aye. I didn't word my statements correctly. (Was tired... =P ) You are
> very much correct.
>
> I guess I was trying to speak along the lines of AV detection and
> forensics. I've yet to find a rootkit, spyware, or malware that is
> COMPLETLY hidden, in every aspect, from the user. There is always a
> way to find it. Granted, they can bypass the "usual means" (regedit,
> taskmanager, etc) in Windows, however there are specialized tools
> (process viewers for example) that show hidden processes. What I meant
> to express is they seem to claim being able to hide from everything.
> (Even if an AV solution detected the very program they use as an
> installer.) That, I doubt.
>
>
> To save someone else from saying this, I'll reply to my own comment. =)
>
> > I've yet to find a rootkit, spyware, or malware that is
> > COMPLETLY hidden, in every aspect, from the user.
>
> Well, DUH. How could you find it if it was COMPLETELY hidden? ;)
> Clarification: The user and a sysadmin that has a clue are two very
> different people.)
>
> --
> Peace. ~G
>
>
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:38:34 +1000, Matt <matt@...temlinux.net> wrote:
> > GuidoZ wrote:
> > > Interesting indeed. Although, I imagine this was a spam email, and I
> > > never believe (nor buy) anything from spam. I wondr how credible this
> > > really is. If there was such a way to do what they claim, don't you
> > > think it would have been big news?  >One would think you wouldn't
first
> > > hear about it through spam.
> > >
> > It is quite possible to hide processes, reg keys and files, and is often
> > done by various malware.
> >
> > > Also - nice website they have. http://www.randexsoft.com Simply says:
> > >
> > > Access Forbidden -- Go away.
> > >
> > > I love a company who is customer friendly.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Peace. ~G
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:10:28 -0700 (PDT), Will Image
> > > <xillwillx@...oo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>I recieved this in my inbox today:
> > >>how long do you think this company will last?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 19:02:44 -0400
> > >>>From: Jacques Tremblay <jacques.tremblay@...il.com>
> > >>>To: xillwillx@...oo.com
> > >>>Subject: Hide your adware from all Adware removers
> > >>>and Anti-viruses
> > >>>
> > >>>To: Business development manager
> > >>>
> > >>>Subject: Hide your adware from all Adware removers
> > >>>and  Anti-viruses
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Hi,
> > >>>       Adware removers are gaining in popularity and
> > >>>they cause a big
> > >>>revenue threat to adware based businesses, as we see
> > >>>our software
> > >>>installations get desinstalled after a period of
> > >>>time that is shorter
> > >>>and shorter, we see our revenues get smaller and
> > >>>smaller.
> > >>>
> > >>>       Why would an honest adware based business
> > >>>lose revenue just because
> > >>>some adware remover has identifyed it as being
> > >>>something to remove ?
> > >>>
> > >>>       We beleive we have the right to hide from
> > >>>these adware removers as
> > >>>long as we provide a way for the user to uninstall
> > >>>and that he agrees
> > >>>that the software will be uninstalled only with the
> > >>>provided
> > >>>uninstaller.
> > >>>
> > >>>       It is in that spirit that we created the
> > >>>solution to the problem :
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>AdProtector 1.2
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>       We have developed software capable of hiding
> > >>>your software from all
> > >>>adware removers and anti-viruses on a Windows
> > >>>NT/2000/2003/XP machine.
> > >>>
> > >>>       Basically we have filtered the windows kernel
> > >>>so that we could mofify
> > >>>the behavior of the system itself. So now we can
> > >>>hide anything we want
> > >>>from windows.
> > >>>
> > >>>                           It can :   - Hide Registry Keys
> > >>>                                      - Hide Files
> > >>>                                              - Hide Processes
> > >>>
> > >>>       By hiding these 3 key elements from windows,
> > >>>your application won't
> > >>>ever be detected by any adware removers.
> > >>>
> > >>>       Interesting ?
> > >>>
> > >>>       For more information or to resquest a Demo :
> > >>>  email :
> > >>>hexa@...dexsoft.com
> > >>>
> > >>>Business is moving fast, keep ahead of the
> > >>>competition!
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Peace. ~G
>
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