full-disclosure - Hacking into private files, my credit card purchases, personal correspondence or anything that is mine is trespassing and criminal.

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <4166DF67.3010609@psilanthropy.org>
From: hades at psilanthropy.org (Anders Langworthy)
Subject: Hacking into private files, my credit card
 purchases, personal correspondence or anything that is mine is trespassing
 and criminal.

> Laws don't change people's behaviour...the enforcement
> of the laws does.

I'm going to be optimistic (it being Friday) and say that there are 
other factors worth mentioning that act to change established behaviour. 
  Education is a big one--and I'm not just talking about the education 
of the evildoers, I'm talking about the technical education of society 
as a whole.  The only way that things will change (wooooah optimism) is 
when the community using the internet has as much knowledge of how to 
defend their data in cyberspace as they do for their physical possessions.

> Having laws...words written on paper...is ineffective
> in and of itself.  Enforcing those laws, or at least
> being able to do so, is what has an effect.  Even if
> you have enough trained, qualified LE personnel to
> enforce the laws, you still have issues of...is the
> "victim" capable of determining/demonstrating when a
> crime has occurred?

Not on that, but some "locks" can be so weak that it is difficult to 
determine from the attacking side when tresspassing has taken place. 
This is often true even for the experienced eye.  In the real world, 
most people of sound mental health are able to determine when they are 
trespassing, even if the door that led them there was unlocked and unmarked.