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Message-ID: <07be01c4ad8a$c2d02710$0e3eac18@MLANDE>
From: mlande at bellsouth.net (Mary Landesman)
Subject: Hacking into private files, my credit card purchases, personal correspondence or anything that is mine is trespassing and criminal.

I have to laugh, since I had the same thought as you! Except I interpreted
the childish behavior as coming from the side you seem to be defending. :-)

Perception is everything.

IMO, arguing that our presence on the Internet is voluntary and that it
somehow excuses bad behavior is simply ridiculous. Heck, our presence in our
homes, in our cars, in our jobs is all voluntary. Using that argument, then,
should we just all have a greedy free for all?

And I don't agree with the rather cynical outlook of one poster who claims
we are somehow wired to be bad and that only negative consequences change
it. Sounds rather like a handly rationalization to me.

Stating that the Internet is somehow not real life is another
head-scratcher. It's people driven, it's a part of our lives, our careers,
our education. According to the dictionary, a society is "A group of humans
broadly distinguished from other groups by mutual interests, participation
in characteristic relationships, shared institutions, and a common culture."

Sounds much like the Internet to me. Would you argue that a society is not
part of real life and thus should be exempt from common courtesies, morals,
and ethics?

-- Mary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Smith" <stfunub@...il.com>
To: "Banta, Will" <will.banta@...adwing.com>
Cc: "morning_wood" <se_cur_ity@...mail.com>;
<full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Hacking into private files, my credit card
purchases, personal correspondence or anything that is mine is trespassing
and criminal.

Am i the only one concerned at the childish behavious on these mailing
lists?
I've not been reading for so long, but in my second or third email to
these lists i've been told that someone 'doesn't care' about me and my
'weak brain'.
And now this 'OK. You're wrong.' ?
Is this neccesary?
I beleive Morning_Wood raises some good points.