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From: xploitable at (yahoo@...alhost)
Subject: Full-Disclosure Posts

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 19:13:18 -0700, Etaoin Shrdlu <> wrote:
> Of course, anyone still using the term "hax0r" as though it were
> meaningful might want to think further about what a "security
> professional" might be

A security professional is someone who cares more about money than the
real issue of security at where they work. They don't go the extra
mile for the interests of security at where they work, as they don't
want to risk the job they're in.

My view is corporations should not employ uni graduates and
thirty-somethings to work in a security team. They very likely still
can't open a can of beans and certainly have no idea about the real
issues which face them. They follow company policy and go home at the
end of the day, and switch off.

The people who should be working at a security team should be
volunteers who have the real interests of the company in mind, instead
of money.

The security professional as we know it (uni graduate and 30
something) is not a hax0r, they are ph.d or whatever who are skilled
on an academic level, and thats as far as it goes, which in my opinion
isn't far enough.

Being a security professional is ment to be about passion, strictly
not money, in my humble opinion.

Stop employing academics and get the hackers in to do the job
properly, unpaid of course, at least to start off with, to make sure
they're joining the company for the right reasons. ;-)

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