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From: yossarian at planet.nl (yossarian)
Subject: Full-Disclosure Posts

You actually CAN criticize bad decisions, but for that you have to be:
A) an expensive consultant from a major firm (e.g. good avice = expensive,
i.e. expensive advice = good!)
B) adressing the right audience in the organisation. Rule of thumb: the
higher your audience is in the hierarchy, the more they expect you to slam
them. Maybe it is a coincidence, but apparantly managers are much more into
SM than sysadmins.....
----- Original Message -----
From: "xploitable" <xploitable@...il.com>
To: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Full-Disclosure Posts

&gt; On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 01:09:09 +0200, yossarian
&lt;yossarian@...net.nl&gt; wrote:<BR>
&gt; &gt; But Dear Backyard - have you applied for a job at yahoo as a
security pro?<BR>
&gt; &gt; Apparantly you know what they should know and you are willing to
tell<BR>
&gt; &gt; them.... If not - give it a try.<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; No sorry, i'm one of these underground nerd / geeks or whatever
label<BR>
&gt; one stamps on such people.<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; I might annoy them for a job one day, for now i'm happy being a pro<BR>
&gt; activist via e-mail. I can do more for Yahoo! by not working for
them.<BR>
&gt; If you work for someone you can't speak out and criticize bad<BR>
&gt; decisions.<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; My heart is with Yahoo!, I grew up with Yahoo! and will continue to<BR>
&gt; assist them when some incident arrises from within the underground<BR>
&gt; paternity, even if I do backstab them from time to time.<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; _______________________________________________<BR>
&gt; Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.<BR>
&gt; Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html