full-disclosure - why o why did NASA do this.

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Message-ID: <9E97F0997FB84D42B221B9FB203EFA27171EED@dc1ms2.msad.brookshires.net>
From: toddtowles at brookshires.com (Todd Towles)
Subject: why o why did NASA do this.

 
GuidoZ wrote:
> =) Yeah, I do. I wasn't sure if you were having a brain fart 
> or something. lol
Ok Mr. Limpy..lol

> Well said. It was finally removed from public view, though 
> I'd imagine quite a few saved it just in case (myself 
> included). No, it's not some perfect list for every malicious 
> purpose, though it's certainly better then nothing. Spammers 
> really don't care if it's active or not - they will still 
> sell it. Social Engineering can go a long way though. It's 
> entirely possible someone that worked at NASA in 1996 would 
> be there still today. It's called a career. =)
Great point about the "career" job. Even if they aren't there, knowing a
time and a name can get you more information out of a person in another
dept, I think. I wouldn't try =) 

-Todd

> --
> Peace. ~G
> 
> 
> On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:59:36 -0500, Todd Towles 
> <toddtowles@...okshires.com> wrote:
> > I meant this outdated NASA e-mail list. I undestand that FD 
> could be 
> > used for this purpose.
> > 
> > The fact that NASA just hands you this information 
> (outdated or not) 
> > is pretty sad. As I stated before it is free information leakage at 
> > best and because it is outdated it should be removed from 
> public view. 
> > This could be used for social attacks and e-mail attacks. I don't 
> > think SPAMmers care about some 6 year old list but hackers 
> would. Any 
> > information that they can get free of charge is just that 
> much better.
> > 
> > You know me better than that GuidoZ .....lol
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: GuidoZ [mailto:uberguidoz@...il.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 1:24 AM
> > > To: Todd Towles
> > > Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] why o why did NASA do this.
> > >
> > > > how would this list help me spam?
> > >
> > > Google your email address - then simply use a bot to 
> gather ALL the 
> > > email addresses listed in the posts along with it. ;) The 
> sad fact 
> > > is that the email addresses used to post to this list (and any 
> > > others like it) are freely there for the taking. Plus, it's quite 
> > > obvious they are active. (More obvious then, say, email 
> addies fro 
> > > 1996?) ;)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Peace. ~G
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:02:00 -0500, Todd Towles 
> > > <toddtowles@...okshires.com> wrote:
> > > > Exactly as I stated eariler...this is just information
> > > leakage...old
> > > > as it might be, it helps...the people on the list are just
> > > doing their
> > > > jobs...getting paid and giving information to a employee that 
> > > > knows their name (and is higher in the company) seems harmless.
> > > Spam isn't
> > > > the issue with this information leakage, I can buy a CD
> > > with 6 million
> > > > e-mail address on it...how would this list help me spam?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
> > > > > [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of 
> > > > > KF_lists
> > > > > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 9:06 AM
> > > > > To: Harry de Grote
> > > > > Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] why o why did NASA do this.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Forget about the spammers, how about social engineers.
> > > This is quite
> > > > > the gold mine for that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi this is Joe Schmoe from building 69 I need to have my 
> > > > > password reset.
> > > > > -KF
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i have to admit... it's pretty old and useless, but i think
> > > > > this may
> > > > > > be a nice place for spammers to try out some new adresses...
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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