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From: chris at neitzert.com (chris neitzert) Subject: Why is IRC still around? there is some great stuff developed on irc. have you ever used a cvsbot? I just love those check-in privmsg notifications. chris == 'when all you have is a nail-gun, every problem looks like a messiah' Danny wrote: > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:10:13 -0500, Tim > <tim-security@...tinelchicken.org> wrote: > >>>My mistake; I was referring to the discussion, collaboration, and >>>creation, not the spread. >> >>You mentioned DDoS attacks below. I don't believe that use is a form of >>discussion, collaboration, or creation. >> >> >>>Some say we should, but I am not one of those. My point was to get rid >>>of the most well established tool (and easiest to use) for these types >>>of activities. >> >>Any tool can be used by anyone for good or evil. If one knows the >>kiddies are all hanging out on IRC, then you can get a lot of good info >>about what their new attacks are by loitering on their channels. >> >> >> >>>What's the difference? IRC is so well established for the type of >>>activity I am referring to. >> >>As it is established for many productive things. Ever check out >>freenode? >> >> >> >>>I'll leave the piracy battle for someone else - I just mentioned it as >>>a part of the problem. >> >>If you aren't prepared to defend it on this list, better not mention it. >>=) >> >> >> >>>Sure netcat is an alternative, but which one is easier to use? >> >>Um... netcat, or raw tcp sockets. I would argue it is easier to write >>something that just opens a connection, and listens for commands to come >>back, than something that has to speak IRC. Speaking IRC has its own >>advantages, but in the absence of it, it is still trivial to manage a >>bot net. >> >> >>>I thought I would throw out the idea. If you want to call me a troll, >>>then so be it, but don't get your panties in a knot over the whole >>>thing >> >>Pardon my harsh reply. It wasn't personal, and is directed only at your >>reasoning. It is a similar reasoning that leads to the slippery slope >>toward censorship. > > > No worries. Case closed. :) > > ...D > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html >
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