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From: chris at neitzert.com (chris neitzert)
Subject: Why is IRC still around?
there is some great stuff developed on irc. have you ever used a
cvsbot? I just love those check-in privmsg notifications.
chris
==
'when all you have is a nail-gun, every problem looks like a messiah'
Danny wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:10:13 -0500, Tim
> <tim-security@...tinelchicken.org> wrote:
>
>>>My mistake; I was referring to the discussion, collaboration, and
>>>creation, not the spread.
>>
>>You mentioned DDoS attacks below. I don't believe that use is a form of
>>discussion, collaboration, or creation.
>>
>>
>>>Some say we should, but I am not one of those. My point was to get rid
>>>of the most well established tool (and easiest to use) for these types
>>>of activities.
>>
>>Any tool can be used by anyone for good or evil. If one knows the
>>kiddies are all hanging out on IRC, then you can get a lot of good info
>>about what their new attacks are by loitering on their channels.
>>
>>
>>
>>>What's the difference? IRC is so well established for the type of
>>>activity I am referring to.
>>
>>As it is established for many productive things. Ever check out
>>freenode?
>>
>>
>>
>>>I'll leave the piracy battle for someone else - I just mentioned it as
>>>a part of the problem.
>>
>>If you aren't prepared to defend it on this list, better not mention it.
>>=)
>>
>>
>>
>>>Sure netcat is an alternative, but which one is easier to use?
>>
>>Um... netcat, or raw tcp sockets. I would argue it is easier to write
>>something that just opens a connection, and listens for commands to come
>>back, than something that has to speak IRC. Speaking IRC has its own
>>advantages, but in the absence of it, it is still trivial to manage a
>>bot net.
>>
>>
>>>I thought I would throw out the idea. If you want to call me a troll,
>>>then so be it, but don't get your panties in a knot over the whole
>>>thing
>>
>>Pardon my harsh reply. It wasn't personal, and is directed only at your
>>reasoning. It is a similar reasoning that leads to the slippery slope
>>toward censorship.
>
>
> No worries. Case closed. :)
>
> ...D
>
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