full-disclosure - WAS: Re: IE is just as safe as FireFox: Moved to Education

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Message-ID: <41A05130.30908@easynix.net>
From: devis at easynix.net (devis)
Subject: WAS: Re: IE is just as safe as FireFox: Moved
 to Education

Well Done. I did myself start to spend more time explaining what i 
before thought users couldn't comprehend and i have achieved surprising 
results.
No, they won't suddenly change, but at least it has saved me from re 
doing the same thing over and over again. They do listen. They do not 
want problems, and if with simple words and minimal effort from their 
parts u manage to make em understand simple security points, then its 
already a positive step. I do believe MS has that financial ease 
necessary to broadcast to user audience that message.

>I watched this subject kind of just go on and on and on. But this statement
>caught my attention. A while back someone made a point of the security issue
>of loading computers which come pre-loaded from OEMs. It never fails that
>the Administrator accounts on HP/Compaq pre-loads are never seen, there just
>there. And the "user" is made administrator. The only time I have seen a
>user start out with "limited" access is after joining it to a network and
>then log on as a user of a domain and not of the computer. 
>
>The question above is answered IMHO as yes. Any one who admins or is a PC
>support person would have to agree. Come'on, if you change their monitor
>they freak out that there folders are now gone! What I've always wondered
>was why not at the beginning of a load do they not give a little more
>explanation of the accounts or make the first account as admin and require
>password for loading initial load and then require a "user" at reboot. I
>feel there is not enough education in this area to the user. And it is the
>"user" and their computer that ends up as our Zombie machines. 
>
>I have to admin that users are becoming more aware of viruses, adware,
>mailware and trojans a lot more then in the past. Heck, that stuff is even
>on the evening news now. I think that education should be elevated more then
>ever. I have begun just such where I work not only to protect our network
>but to make my job easier. I got tired of spending a quarter of my day
>unlocking a computer from mailware and spyware. For my remote users I began
>a weekly "Laptop Tips" and for office users I send out messages explaining
>the dangers of such. I have seen the difference in problems. They NOW report
>to me about pop-up message and ask me what they should do. Before they just
>hit the yes button or ignored them. To me the old statement of "teach this
>generation what you want the next generation to know" works.
>
>Wow...I like coffee!!! It gives me a buzz!! And makes me talk a lot!!!
> 
>
>Randall M
> 
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