full-disclosure - Certifications

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Message-ID: <200411230030.iAN0UQu5008806@vsmtp01-nyc.voiceglo.com>
From: cdupuis at cccure.org (Clement Dupuis)
Subject: Certifications

Good day Jericho,

Remember that we are talking about someone who is NOT an IT person, someone
who is NOT a security person.  I see people who have lots of networking and
system administration under their belt that spent a fair amount of time
getting prepared.

If you can pass in the condition that you have mentioned below, you are
certainly an experience professional that has experience in more than a
single domain.

Dummyfying or telling people they can just walk in and pass the test if
foolish.  Not everyone has the required knowledge (even if it is high level)
of the ten domains that are required.

If you think that you are hot and ready to pay 500$ and do not care about
loosing it from your own pocket then fine take the exam.  If you care about
your hard earn cash, I would suggest you take a 250 questions on a practice
exam on www.cccure.org and see how well you do.  If you score consistently
between 80 to 85% on those easier tests you are ready for the real exam.

Looking at the stats, passing on first try is NOT the norm :-)

Take care

Clement

-----Original Message-----
From: security curmudgeon [mailto:jericho@...rition.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 5:15 PM
To: Clement Dupuis
Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Certifications

: This means that someone who has been doing strictly doing physical
: security for 4 years is allowed and entitled to sit for the exam.  If he
: studies adequately and prepare himself, there are good chances that he
: can axe the exam with 6 months of thorough studies.  Does this makes him

This was humor or a troll, yes?

The stories of people passing with no sleep, still drunk, and not having
read anything yet still passing are common. You can buy one book, read,
memorize and pass the CISSP. Six months of thorough studies is a far cry
from what it really takes.