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Message-ID: <4b0fef7e04112319563bbe737b@mail.gmail.com>
From: vordhosbn at gmail.com (vord)
Subject: Why is IRC still around?

[flame]
n3td3v/malformed,

please think before you speak. ive already explained this to you more
than once. #hackphreak is no longer  associated with a "group" and no
longer intends to be a channel dedicated primarily to matters of
hacking/phreaking technical discussion [we therefore accommodate
"lamers" who "don't know anything" and "give IRC/hackers/phreakers a
bad name" whatever the fuck that means -- suffice it to say, its not
primarily a help channel anymore. we talk to each other about whatever
the fuck we want and answer questions when and if we damn well feel
like it. we do not congregate there for your enjoyment, we do so for
our own. moreover, most of us deal with computers all day long and
don't particularly care to talk about them 24/7.

oh hey, remind us why no one reads your forum even though you spam the
link on this list several times a day. :X

as far as "real hackers" are concerned ... it takes one to know one; i
can see why you're in the dark on this matter. please see my previous
message ... if there are real hackers anywhere its #hackphreak. if you
like, you can send all of your hacking/security related questions
directly to us from now on ... we would be glad to make you look like
an idiot on a regular basis as it would certainly be entertaining. i
will personally see to it that all of your questions are answered in a
timely fashion. [/flame]

stop replying to this on-list.

--v
#hackphreak/undernet
giving irc and real hackers/phreakers a bad name since 1998.

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:12:06 +0000, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:14:09 -0600, vord <vordhosbn@...il.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> > [flame response] firstly, n3td3v is only mad because i happened to ban
> > him from #hackphreak ... which is incidentally the current home of
> > former/current "members" of [where to begin?] rhino9, w00w00 ... and
> > of course, people who're currently employed at CA/ISS/M$/FS/SIDC. the
> > list goes on. are we script kiddies or do we maybe like to do more
> > than talk about computers all day? you be the judge. anyway, that has
> > nothing to do with this list or this discussion and im sure we'd all
> > benefit from you, and morons like rap1st, keeping their mouths
> > shut.[/flame response]
> 
> You never *banned* me from anywhere. You banned a host mask I was
> using. I'm still on the channel with an open proxy and different
> nickname. Remind the others why you banned me, yeah you banned me
> because I was making fun of how lame you all are, and how none of you
> can answer simple questions, which don't even need a technical
> response, a first year uni student could answer.
> 
> All you guys do on the channel is talk about pimps and whores and
> other *general chat* stuff. Nothing related to security or hacking is
> discussed (and if it is, its in very general terms) that would merit
> the name *hackphreak*.
> 
> You give IRC and real hackers and phreakers a bad name.