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Message-ID: <41ADFFF9.4020402@romnet.com> From: andy at romnet.com (Andrew Silva) Subject: FW: Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment well put. raza wrote: >Well as a security professional I can testify that the sites you want >closed down ie reference to zone-h etc.. Are a valued source of >knowledge! > >Obviously your not plugged into security and as such use these groups to >talk Shi* and justify your views of closing IRC Channels. > >Thankfully your not in government and btw , not all readers on this list >are in the US , I am from the UK and its clear to me that you don't >understand the concept of freedom of information ! > >r > >-----Original Message----- >From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com >[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Bruce >Ediger >Sent: 17 November 2004 20:29 >To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com >Subject: Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment > >On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, n3td3v wrote: > > ... > > > >>>If I was in gov, I would shut a site down that looks remotely >>>hax0rish, even if they've done nothing wrong. All these crews and >>>hacker groups, fk them all. The net needs zero tollerence with >>> >>> >online > > >>>crime. Govs should have the authority to close anything done because >>>they feel like it, without needing to prove shit. >>> >>>I would even close IRC channels. Hackphreak on undernet looks >>>harmless, but fk that. Close it anyway, its time to get a tighter >>> >>> >grip > > >>>on things. >>> >>> > ... > > >>Same for zone-h.org, close the crap down.. f**k anything that looks >>remotely hax0rish. >> >> > >Unfortunately, the US Government operates under the auspices of a small >document called "The Constitution", and a little concept called "Common >Law". >Now, I know that you trendy kids call things like that "quaint" (I >believe >that's what our new Attorney general calls things like the Geneva >Convention. >See >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/06/13/wguan13. >xml&sSheet=/news/2004/06/13/ixworld.html) >but fortunately for the rest of us, "presumption of innocence" remains >the standard of the land. > >If you small-minded totalitarians don't like that sacred principle, get >the hell out of the US. We don't need your kind. Move to some Banana >Republic where they change the rules all the time in the face of 1000 >years of tradition and philosophy and the Blood of Patriots who died to >protect these rights. > >"Zero tollerence". What will these doofuses think of next? I bet they >start up a cult of personality around the nation's leader, including a >new salute borrowed from the Romans. > >_______________________________________________ >Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > >_______________________________________________ >Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > > >
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