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Message-ID: <NMEAJDJMDLJLOIOCIKJJMEBLFNAA.exibar@thelair.com>
From: exibar at thelair.com (Exibar)
Subject: [inbox] Re: overturning edit of molded cdroms feasible?

Here's what I got out of your discussion, readin between the lines:

1)  You've aquired a shrinkwrap machine recently
2)  You've successfully purchased, lets say, Doom 3.
3)  You've also successfully copied the CD's and the activation key
4)  In your excitement you tore up the original CD sleeve really bad
5)  You've purchased a box of generic CD sleeves from staples
6)  You replaced the torn up sleeves with your newly purchased Staples'
sleeve
7)  You successfully learned HOW to use the shrink-wrap machine and  shrink
wrapped Doom 3
8)  You've successfully returnded that copy of Doom 3 to Best-Buy and got a
full refund
9)  You're now the person using the CD-key that someone else is going to
actually pay for but it won't work because you're using it for free

  Of course you didn't actually say anything like this, but that's what I
(and I'm sure most others) saw in your post.  Interesting idea, but way too
much trouble if you ask me.  If you really want to pirate a game, just
download it from IRC or any P2P network and burn it to CD's or DVD's...

  Ex

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Saber Taylor [mailto:elven_org_backup@...oo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:21 PM
> To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: [inbox] Re: [Full-Disclosure] overburning edit of molded cdroms
> feasible?
>
>
> Saber Taylor wrote:
> > > Scenario: chinese agent buys molded cdroms from
> [...]
> Phillip Paradis wrote:
> > 1. Recording data on a pressed CD is physically
> [...]
> > 2. Most retailers will not accept opened software,
> > movies, cassettes,
>
> I was cheating here a little bit in my discussion
> bait. Gosh though, I can see how these lists draw
> people in to talking about locksmith type of ideas.
>
> China has lots of bootleg pressed cdrom factories so I
> doubt they are hideously difficult to utilize if an
> organization has access to them. But otherwise
> morning_wood trumped my idea.
>
> On the second matter, a friend-of-a-friend several
> years ago obtained a shrinkwrap machine (which he used
> for nefarious porpoises to his heart's delight). The
> card board tear-off seals on some cdrom envelopes may
> be more tamper resistant, but most customers wouldn't
> notice if Badguy replaced them with a more generic
> envelope (inside the shrinkwrapped box).
>
>
> S. Taylor
>
>
>
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