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Message-ID: <41B4B256.6040903@sdf.lonestar.org>
From: bkfsec at sdf.lonestar.org (bkfsec)
Subject: If Lycos can attack spammer sites, can we all
 start doing it?

Michael R. Schmidt wrote:

>Is putting a murderer in jail too much for you too?
>
>Cause that is the end justifying the means
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Are you saying that a murderer going to jail justifies the murder?!?  Or 
are you saying that the murderer being in jail justifies the 
trial/investigation?  Or are you saying that a potentially dangerous 
person being removed from society justifies his incarceration?

The first possibility is stupid.  The second possibility is dull.  And 
the third possibility is obvious.

The problem here is that you have to drill down deeper into the issue.  
Your statement, at face value, is entirely worthless. 

I'm going to assume you mean the last case here and state that according 
to any civilized society, the end your referring to doesn't justify all 
means.

All western civilizations have standards for imprisonment and 
prosecution that have to be met.  So, no, the end doesn't "justify the 
means".  It justifies certain means, but not others.

And the means that it justifies it does so because society as a whole 
has deemed that those means are necessary and acceptible.  Society has 
not deemed that torture is acceptible, neither as an end nor a mean.  
Period.

>A country has a right to protect its citizens
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>>From internal as well as external forces
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Really?  When did the civil war begin?  I must have missed it.

          -Barry