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Message-ID: <NMEAJDJMDLJLOIOCIKJJCEACFOAA.exibar@thelair.com>
From: exibar at thelair.com (Exibar)
Subject: [spam] Re: This sums up Yahoo!s security policy
	to a -T-



> -----Original Message-----
> From: J.A. Terranson [mailto:measl@....org]
> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 10:56 AM
> To: Exibar
> Cc: morning_wood; full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: [spam] Re: [Full-Disclosure] This sums up Yahoo!s security
> policy to a -T-
>
>
>
> On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Exibar wrote:
>
> > I applaud Yahoo for adhearing to their policies.  All the
> familly has to do
> > is send legal documents of their son's death, and legal
> documents stating
> > who they are.  At that point I'm sure the account information will be
> > released as per Yahoo's policy.
>
>
> Yahoo's policy says that death terminates the account: they better have a
> TRO served up with that notice ;-)
>

If it does state that, then his parents have zero legal recourse.


> >   Instead of trying to get the media involved, they should be
> getting their
> > laywer involved as the clock's ticking on the 90 no-activity
> delete.  Their
> > lawyer will know the correct documents to send over to yahoo as proof of
> > their son's death and that his parents have control over their
> dead son's
> > belongings/estate.
>
> I've been wondering why they went the PR route, and the answer which
> comes to mind is that his parents may *not* be the estate holders ;-)
> Perhaps there is a will which they don't like?  Or a wife?  Maybe a
> *husband*???
>
>
> >   Perhaps what yahoo *could* do, or *should* do, is remove the 90 day
> > time-out on their son's e-mail account until they can have a
> chance of going
> > through the courts.  Perhaps extend it up to 365 days...
>
> Why?  They have a well defined set of account terms, which the decedent
> specifically acknowledged and agreed to.  Why should some outsider be able
> to come in and change the rules after the fact?  Why does everyone assume
> that the decedent would approve of his family getting control of his
> account?
>

I only said that to state that *if* Yahoo wanted some good PR, they would
lift the 90 expirey.  They don't have to, especially if death terminates the
account as stated above.



>
> --
> Yours,
>
> J.A. Terranson
> sysadmin@....org
> 0xBD4A95BF
>
>  Civilization is in a tailspin - everything is backwards, everything is
> upside down- doctors destroy health, psychiatrists destroy minds, lawyers
> destroy justice, the major media destroy information, governments destroy
> freedom and religions destroy spirituality - yet it is claimed to be
> healthy, just, informed, free and spiritual. We live in a social system
> whose community, wealth, love and life is derived from alienation,
> poverty, self-hate and medical murder - yet we tell ourselves that it is
> biologically and ecologically sustainable.
>
> The Bush plan to screen whole US population for mental illness clearly
> indicates that mental illness starts at the top.
>
> Rev Dr Michael Ellner
>
>
>