full-disclosure - And you're proud of this Mike Evanchick?

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Message-ID: <013301c4f124$40e7b460$6702a8c0@AlanPickel.com>
From: Mike at MichaelEvanchik.com (Michael Evanchik)
Subject: And you're proud of this Mike Evanchick?

RE: [Full-Disclosure] And you're proud of this Mike Evanchick?wasnt meant as attack. sorry about that.  The statment was totally wrong, by no means is any AVP going to save you from true attackers.

Mike
www.michaelevanchik.com


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: xyberpix 
  To: Todd Towles 
  Cc: Michael Evanchik ; full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:55 PM
  Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] And you're proud of this Mike Evanchick?


  I have to aggree with Todd on this one, the attack was extremely
  unprofessional, and things like this should be left out of mailing
  lists. I could carry on, but am forcing myself not to here.

  xyberpix

  On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 08:38 -0600, Todd Towles wrote:
  > Umm..and you were the one giving cheers to Norton. Of course AV can be
  > fooled..and of course a patch from microsoft is the only true way to
  > fix the problem.
  > 
  > She was attacking you for giving Cheers to Norton. I didn't release
  > the POC, you did. I am happy Norton is detecting it. If you want to
  > change your words right in the middle of the sentence, I really don't
  > care.
  > 
  > By attacking me on a personal level, you have proven to me..to be
  > unprofessional at best.
  >
  >        
  >         ______________________________________________________________
  >         From: Michael Evanchik [mailto:Mike@...haelEvanchik.com]
  >         Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:03 PM
  >         To: Todd Towles; Elle Chicka; full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
  >         Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] And you're proud of this Mike
  >         Evanchick?
  >        
  >        
  >         Todd,
  >         
  >         Listen, you are so wrong i cant belive you even have the guts
  >         to post this.  How stupid can you be?  Norton or any AVP can
  >         easily be fooled.  The active x object "ca"+n b"+ +e crea"
  >         +ted" like this. code changed around , or even different local
  >         code can be used and tada AVP is fooled.  Only a true patch
  >         from microsoft or disable the help control in the registry is
  >         going to stop this.  Her concern is wise. 
  >         
  >         Mike
  >         www.michaelevanchik.com
  >         
  >                 ----- Original Message -----
  >                 From: Todd Towles
  >                 To: Elle Chicka ; full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
  >                 Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 9:36 AM
  >                 Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] And you're proud of
  >                 this Mike Evanchick?
  >                
  >                
  >                 Well, if you have Norton, it couldn't wreak
  >                 havoc...now could it? Most of the AV compaines are now
  >                 detecting the exploit. This detection response is much
  >                 faster than most of the other exploits which are
  >                 wreaking havoc on your network, so it would sound.
  >                 
  >                 Nice work to Norton.
  >                
  >                        
  >                         ______________________________________________
  >                         From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.netsys.com
  >                         [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Elle Chicka
  >                         Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 11:16 PM
  >                         To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
  >                         Subject: [Full-Disclosure] And you're proud of
  >                         this Mike Evanchick?
  >                        
  >                        
  >                         You so proudly posted this:
  >                         ------------------------
  >                         http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/trojanphel.a.html
  >                        
  >                         mike
  >                        
  >                         www.michaelevanchik.com
  >                         
  >                         ------------------------
  >                         Obviously you are just tickled to see that the
  >                         kiddies were able to so quickly turn your
  >                         point/click sploit code into a virus to wreak
  >                         havoc on my network.
  >                        
  >                         Thanks a lot for helping to make all of us a
  >                         little less secure over the holiday's.
  >                         
  >                        
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