Message-ID: <41DD1D02.70207@sbcglobal.net>
From: stevex11 at sbcglobal.net (Steve Kudlak)
Subject: list noise


In my case I get a mix of stuff that comes a variety of places. The 
various sbc clones were in there, so was symoatico. There were Healtyh 
Insurance processors and they seemed the worst. I think it varies 
depending on a lot of variables.  But it is worth watching this stuff 
and taking adequate precautions. I have Norton and am considering a 
backup. My other account is run through sentinare which is really good 
that plus Norton gets almost everything. The only one that got through 
yearsn ago was the A"Playa Virus" but luckily I don't use IE or Outlook 
and I just tossed it withoug opening the attachment so all was OK.

Have Fun,
Sends Steve

P,S, I also scan all outgoing mail etc.



dcdave@....net wrote:

> Steve,
>  
> On a related topic, what is sbcglobal?
> 90% of the virus e-mail I see coming in where I work (usually Jennifer 
> the wild girl xxx07) is coming from infected sbcglobal addresses.
>  
> Warm regards,
> dcdave--
> CSO
> InfoSec Group
> 703-626-6516
>
>     -------------- Original message from Steve Kudlak
>     <stevex11@...global.net>: --------------
>
>
>     > dcdave@....net wrote:
>     >
>     > >I will NOT respond to this;
>     > >I will NOT respond to this;
>     > >I will Not respond to this;
>     > >
>     > >dcdave
>     > >
>     > >--
>     > >CSO
>     > >InfoSec Group
>     > >703-626-6516
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > -------------- Original message ----------------------
>     > >From: phased
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >>I also care about noise, and responding to stupid mails makes
>     it worse.
>     > >>Every time people send stupid mails like the rm file thing,
>     and people reply
>     > to
>     > >>the list, the author was successful in filling the list with
>     crap for a day or
>     > >>so.
>     > >>
>     > >>If no one replies, then they dont get attention and the people
>     who know their
>     > >>advisories(anyone with common sense) are blatantly crap will
>     not be affected
>     > by
>     > >>their nuisance.
>     > >>
>     > >>You always get a load of emails to the list from people who
>     want to tell
>     > >>everyone they know that an advisory for example was crap, yes
>     we know
>     > >>thank you, but we are not handing out gold stars today!!!
>     > >>No need to tell us all every time!!!
>     > >>
>     > >>phased
>     > >>
>     > >>-----Original Message-----
>     > >>From: Barrie Dempster
>     > >>To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
>     > >>Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 09:36:07 +0000
>     > >>Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Multiple Backdoors found in eEye
>     > Products(IRISand
>     > >>SecureIIS)
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >>>I'd hav! e to agr ee with the eEye statement on this one. You
>     sent out an
>     > >>>advisory without disclosing the details, which offers no real
>     benefit to
>     > >>>anyone. Many people consider this responsible disclosure but
>     that also
>     > >>>requires you to notify the vendor (there were no @eeye.com's
>     in your
>     > >>>"to" list but there were a couple of press mailboxes).
>     > >>>
>     > >>>You didn't contact eEye, you didn't release details, you used an
>     > >>>anonymous address and failed to mention or credit any of the
>     other guys
>     > >>>in your "testing team", This can only lead us to believe that
>     the
>     > >>>advisory is fake and only intended to generate bad press for
>     eEye. I
>     > >>>personally don't care about eEye's PR rating but I do care
>     about the
>     > >>>level of noise on these lists and I do care about backdoor-ed
>     commercial
>     > >>>products that are in common use. You may have an issue with
>     eEye and see
>     > >>>this as revenge. However, I doubt you also have an issue with
>     the many
>     > >>>admins who probably have spent their holiday season
>     investigating these
>     > >>>claims, when there are likely more pressing matters to
>     address, such as
>     > >>>a large stock of alcohol.
>     > >>>
>     > >>>Show us details, or be quiet. If you intended to embarrass
>     eEye the plan
>     > >>>backfired as any competent professional on this list (there
>     are a few -
>     > >>>I've heard stories about them) would see this as a shameful
>     attempt and
>     > >>>would be laughing at you, not eEye.
>     > >>>
>     > >>>Seasons greetings to eEye and all Full Disclosure subscribers
>     - even you
>     > >>>"Lance Gusto".
>     > >>>
>     > >>>With Regards..
>     > >>>Barrie Dempster (zeedo) - Fortiter et Strenue
>     > >&! gt;>
>     > >>> http://www.bsrf.org.uk
>     > >>>
>     > >>>[ gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x96025FD0 ]
>     > >>>
>     > >>>
>     > >>>
>     > >>>
>     > >>>
>     > >>>ATTACHMENT: application/pgp-signature ("signature.asc")
>     > >>>
>     > >>>_______________________________________________
>     > >>>Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
>     > >>>Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
>     > >>>
>     > >>>
>     > >>>
>     > >>>
>     > >>_______________________________________________
>     > >>Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
>     > >>Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >_______________________________________________
>     > >Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
>     > >Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > Neither Will I!
>     > Neither Will I!
>     > Neither Will I!
>     > Let it Die!
>     > Let it Die!
>     > Let it Die!;)
>     >
>     > Have Fun,
>     > Sends Steve
>     > 
>

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