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Message-ID: <E1D0IHf-000PvM-00.phased-mail-ru@f10.mail.ru>
From: phased at mail.ru (phased)
Subject: GREENAPPLE Release
>
> > I thought Full Disclosure propagators actually endorsed waiting for a
> > vendor to fix the vulnerability before announcing a security hole..
> > On the other hand what do I know? My hat is black.
>
> Some days I find myself leaning more towards 'responsibility' while most
> days I recognize that the only way vendors learn is through repeated
> hard lessons.
>
Its not your responsibility to do work that they get paid for.
> Consequently I keep my morals flexible as long as people's
> personal/physical safety is respected and money doesn't change hands
> when the law may be broken. There's always the golden rule if anyone
> finds themselves in need of a universal yardstick, though for a company
> like Microsoft, I do revel in seeing them take it dry. In any case, with
> all these idiotic laws, who isn't a criminal somewhere? Coming soon via
> treaty to a theatre near you!
>
> But I digress... I wasn't rankled by what could be perceived as a
> 'responsible' disclosure on Dave's part. I'm saying he and his crew sit
> on stuff and parcel it out when and where it will do the most good for
> their prestige. It might be good marketing, but I think it's cheesy how
> long some people sit on things, especially when pains are taken to point
> out that they've known about it for some time now. A little too
> Hollywood for my tastes.
>
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