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From: ledeve at gmx.net (Lentila de Vultur)
Subject: harddisk encryption

my comments to your comments:

> 1. If the encryptor encrypts your boot disk, it has to be involved early
> in the
> boot process and may be broken by anything that changes the system boot
> sequence.
> On the whole such a product would likely need two different drivers, one
> of which
> would change BIOS behavior, and the other of which would change runtime
> OS behavior, and they must be in synch with one another.
> 
>   This is fine until you decide to change operating systems, at which
> point the boot
> may change and make your old data suddenly disappear. Things on the other
> hand are
> easier if the encrypting disk product only encrypts data devices
> (including virtual
> disks) since only one driver need be used.

in this case you can unencrypt the drive, do the neccessary changes, and
re-encrypt it. con: it's time-consuming.
 
> 2. In the event of disk crash or emergency, unless a tool is provided to
> allow you
> to access the encrypted disk from somewhere else, anything which causes an
> OS to
> become non bootable may be unfixable. You would not normally want such a
> tool online,
> but when you need it, you REALLY need it.

such tools are provided (at least for utimaco and securstar). and they are
small enough to fit on a floppy. of course you need to provide proper
credentials to decrypt anything. the possibility to save the encryption keys
and user authetication data is also provided.

 
> 4. An interesting question to ask of such a package is whether the data in
> any
> disk block is a cipher depending only on a fixed key and the original
> data. If so,
> and the same key is used for every block, there are attacks which can be
> used
> to compromise such a system without having to decrypt it all. If on the
> other hand
> something else is an input, you need to know what else is used and how it
> is
> used and how key scheduling is done, to make any estimate of how strong
> the
> cipher really is.

can you please detail on this? or point me to some documentation.

 
> The Ultimaco literature suggests that many users may have different
> passwords to
> access a computer disk protected by its package. If I were buying it in
> bulk I
> would certainly want to know more about how the key management is done to
> allow
> this. 

i've asked them. but no answer as yet.



thanks.


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> [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.netsys.com]On Behalf Of Lentila de
> Vultur
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:05 AM
> To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: [Full-Disclosure] harddisk encryption
> 
> 
> hi,
> 
> sorry for my late answer and for breaking the thread. below you can find
> the
> original post:
> 
> <>
> i'm evaluating a software that performs harddisk encryption for deploying
> in
> my company. the software in question is utimaco safeguard easy v4.10
> (www.utimaco.com) running on w2k.
> 
> i am interested in communitty's oppinion about this product. has anyone
> performed a detailed analysis of it? i googled around but i couldn't find
> much information, except that the version 3.20 sr1 has earned an eal3
> certification from the german federal agency for it security. 
> </>
> 
> 
> thank you for all your answers and suggestions on and off the list.
> 
> what i like at safeguard easy are the possibility to encrypt full
> harddisks,
> not only files or partitions, and the boot authentication. Frank Knobbe
> suggested encryption plus hard disk from pc guardian - I asked for an
> evaluation copy. google suggested also drive crypt plus pack -
> www.securstar.com.
> 
> imho, the main disadvantage of pgpdisk and alike compared with
> full-encryption tools is that valuable data can remain unencrypted in the
> swap file or in temporary files outside the container. When using full 
> harddisk encryption tools no extra user interaction is required,
> everything
> is done transparently. there is no need for user training.
> 
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