full-disclosure - In case y'all didn't catch it yet...

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From: Bart.Lansing at kohls.com (Bart.Lansing@...ls.com)
Subject: In case y'all didn't catch it yet...

Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote on 02/16/2005 12:08:14 PM:

> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:27:45 CST, Bart.Lansing@...ls.com said:
> 
> > Fact:  If the paper and method are sound...the sky STILL is not 
falling 
> > (although it will be raining pretty darned hard)...2^69 
operations...to 
> > get a collision...how many hours of current gen cpu cycles?? (some 
notes 
> > from the blog thread postulate a 4 ghz machine would need 4000 
> > years...4000 CPU@ 4 ghz ea ...1 year.)
> 
> And if it's a crew with a 400K machine zombie net, 3 days.  Maybe a week 
given
> that most of the boxes are consumer-grade machines.
> 
> Consider it a "given" that there's at least one "somebody" *already* 
situated
> in that target space...

Vladis, point taken...but to be picky, that's 400k machines with the 
process forground-tasking, cpu at 100%, machine online 7x24, and at the 
very state of the consumer PC art (remembering that we were talking about 
an as-yet not readily available 4ghz machine capable of 2^32 ops/sec). As 
effective as botnets are, clocking the cpu to its knees is going to tip 
even clueless pc owners off....all to "maybe" cause 1 collision...assuming 
of course, that their solution even lends itself to distributed processing 
at all.

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