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Message-ID: <12574260FBFBD411BD4E000102A9123E0409C2A9@gandalf.dilloncs.de>
From: Andriy.Bilous at sabre.com (Andriy Bilous)
Subject: Things that make you go "Hmmm"


I didn't get it... Now you have no mail server and use the open maillist for
corporate correspondence? We are waiting impatiently for detailed report how
this server was compromised.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Coombs [mailto:jasonc@...ence.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:24 AM
To: Mark Remington; 'Burke N. Hare'
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Things that make you go "Hmmm"


Mark, your story is convenient. It also does not match the statements of
others at PivX who also claim to be involved in responding to this incident.

According to an e-mail that I received earlier today, ?The
forensics.pivx.com mail server was trashed.?

PivX corporate counsel contacted me with the following query:

?Why did you change the password on our server??

Then I received a follow-up from PivX counsel after I denied doing any such
thing:

?Our forensics server had the password changed so I figured it was you!?

The conclusion was thus:

?Don't worry about the server. It is being re-imaged.?

This makes me go Hmmm...

Sincerely,

Jason Coombs
jasonc@...ence.org

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mark Remington" <mremington@...eatfocus.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 18:07:04 
To:"'Jason Coombs'" <jasonc@...ence.org>,       "'Burke N. Hare'"
<bounce@...odeus.yi.org>
Cc:full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Things that make you go "Hmmm"

All,

This box was not taken down by any hacker, or owned, it was taken down by my
sys admins at PivX for maintenance.  Forensics is a division of PivX and we
manage that server.  There's patching that needs to happen, so we took it
down.  

Sorry for any chatter about this today.  Obviously, there's some
mis-communication here.  Hopefully this clears it all up.  


Mark Remington
VP Operations
PivX Solutions

> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.netsys.com 
> [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf 
> Of Jason Coombs
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 5:06 PM
> To: Burke N. Hare
> Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Things that make you go "Hmmm"
> 
> 
> And whomever it was that just owned the forensics.PivX.com 
> linux box, that wasn't a very nice thing to do...
> 
> You should apologize.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jason Coombs
> jasonc@...ence.org _______________________________________________
> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
> Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
> 


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Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html

_______________________________________________
Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html


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