full-disclosure - Things that make you go "Hmmm"

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From: smp.repicky at gmail.com (Matt)
Subject: Things that make you go "Hmmm"

Would they really want to promote themselves being so stupid that they
get hacked and rather than take any steps to find out how, just
re-image the server....  The "FORENSICS" server?  I mean... really...

Then again on the other hand, if they're not promoting themselves,
they're still just that stupid since they're using the seclist to send
email back and forth between each other.


--


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:22:30 +0300, Egoist <mastah@...eaker.net> wrote:
> Hello Andreia,
> 
> Wednesday, March 2, 2005, 4:51:45 PM, you wrote:
> 
> AG> Ooooo, soap opera! Can't wait for the next chapter in the tale of
> AG> "forensics.pivx", the mail server that was! :D
> 
> AG> AvG
> 
> AG> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 11:27:18 +0100, Andriy Bilous
> AG> <Andriy.Bilous@...re.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I didn't get it... Now you have no mail server and use the open maillist for
> >> corporate correspondence? We are waiting impatiently for detailed report how
> >> this server was compromised.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jason Coombs [mailto:jasonc@...ence.org]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:24 AM
> >> To: Mark Remington; 'Burke N. Hare'
> >> Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Things that make you go "Hmmm"
> >>
> >> Mark, your story is convenient. It also does not match the statements of
> >> others at PivX who also claim to be involved in responding to this incident.
> >>
> >> According to an e-mail that I received earlier today, "The
> >> forensics.pivx.com mail server was trashed."
> >>
> >> PivX corporate counsel contacted me with the following query:
> >>
> >> "Why did you change the password on our server?"
> >>
> >> Then I received a follow-up from PivX counsel after I denied doing any such
> >> thing:
> >>
> >> "Our forensics server had the password changed so I figured it was you!"
> >>
> >> The conclusion was thus:
> >>
> >> "Don't worry about the server. It is being re-imaged."
> >>
> >> This makes me go Hmmm...
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> Jason Coombs
> >> jasonc@...ence.org
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "Mark Remington" <mremington@...eatfocus.com>
> >> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 18:07:04
> >> To:"'Jason Coombs'" <jasonc@...ence.org>,       "'Burke N. Hare'"
> >> <bounce@...odeus.yi.org>
> >> Cc:full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> >> Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Things that make you go "Hmmm"
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> This box was not taken down by any hacker, or owned, it was taken down by my
> >> sys admins at PivX for maintenance.  Forensics is a division of PivX and we
> >> manage that server.  There's patching that needs to happen, so we took it
> >> down.
> >>
> >> Sorry for any chatter about this today.  Obviously, there's some
> >> mis-communication here.  Hopefully this clears it all up.
> >>
> >> Mark Remington
> >> VP Operations
> >> PivX Solutions
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.netsys.com
> >> > [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf
> >> > Of Jason Coombs
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 5:06 PM
> >> > To: Burke N. Hare
> >> > Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> >> > Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Things that make you go "Hmmm"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > And whomever it was that just owned the forensics.PivX.com
> >> > linux box, that wasn't a very nice thing to do...
> >> >
> >> > You should apologize.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Jason Coombs
> >> > jasonc@...ence.org _______________________________________________
> >> > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
> >> > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
> >> >
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
> >> Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
> >> Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
> >> Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
> >>
> AG> _______________________________________________
> AG> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
> AG> Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
> 
> looks like stupid promotion of pivx
> is it?
> 
> --
> Best regards,
>  Egoist                            mailto:mastah@...eaker.net
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
> Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
>