From: perfectirijillo at gmail.com (J u a n)
Subject: US pres election was hacked away by
	Dumbya&cabal. (fwd)

who cares? I thought this was a security related mailing list, for
once this is not about US politics, I don't care about it and the rest
of the world don't care about it either, please stop. Next time join a
political party, go vote, march to the congress or the white house or
whatever, do something useful instead of posting mails here...



On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:54:00 -0600, Paul Schmehl <pauls@...allas.edu> wrote:
> Normally I would not post publicly a private email from someone without
> their permission, but this bozo deserves it.
> 
> You want to threaten me, Seth?  Please, contact my boss.  Write hundreds of
> letters to the editor of whatever papers you desire.
> 
> While you're at it, contact the Governor and request an investigation of my
> "illegal" activities.  I'm sure, once they're done laughing, his staff will
> immediately commence a thorough investigation of moi employing the full
> resources of the State Attorney General's office.
> 
> Putz.
> 
> ------------ Forwarded Message ------------
> Date: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:35:12 AM -0800
> From: Seth Alan Woolley <seth@...tology.org>
> To: Paul Schmehl <pauls@...allas.edu>
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] US pres election was hacked away by
> Dumbya&cabal.
> 
> [snipped a bunch of non-relevant stuff]
> 
> Please keep your ignorant drivel off the list.  For just one example of
> evidence, sworn depositions by county elections officials were presented
> as evidence to Congress by Representative Conyers that illegal behavior
> was conducted by a Triad representative including instructing county
> elections officials on how to fake the recounts in Ohio.
> 
> In full-disclosure, I happen to be friends with the Media Director of
> the Cobb/LaMarche campaign that initiated the vote recount that brought
> to light the amount of fraud in Ohio.  I also voted to nominate Cobb for
> the US Green Party presidential nominating convention as a delegate
> representing the State of Oregon, was secretary of the state party for
> two years, and was elections administrator for the Oregon State
> nominating convention that sent the majority of its delegates
> representing Cobb to the national convention.
> 
> Does the University of Texas at Dallas pay you to write ignorant
> political tripe?  That's so Republican, to use government subsidies to
> further political agendas.  You should be proud.  I hope your boss is
> too.  Oh wait, he can't...
> 
> http://utdallas.edu/utdgeneral/business/admin_manual/personnel2.htm
> 
> Page D11-270.0 Political Activity and Influence of the UT Dallas
> employee manual essentially says you can't be paid if you use UT Dallas
> resources to influence an election:
> 
> Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12])
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>         for <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>;
>         Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:35:18 +0000 (GMT)
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>         for <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>;
>         Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:35:17 -0600 (CST)
> 
> So you can abide by the law, or be reported to your boss and the local
> newspaper via a letter to the editor.  Post your ignorance on your own
> dime.
> 
> --
> Seth Alan Woolley [seth at positivism.org], SPAM/UCE is unauthorized
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> ---------- End Forwarded Message ----------
> 
> Paul Schmehl (pauls@...allas.edu)
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> The University of Texas at Dallas
> AVIEN Founding Member
> http://www.utdallas.edu
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Seth Alan Woolley <seth@...tology.org>
> To: Paul Schmehl <pauls@...allas.edu>
> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 00:35:12 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] US pres election was hacked away by Dumbya&cabal.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 11:35:17AM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> > --On Thursday, March 10, Edward Ray <support@...cman.com> wrote:
> > >Personally I think *regardless whether it's true or not* it's a
> > >pretty eye-popping development -- had the equivalent happened here in the
> > >UK it would certainly be headline news, even if the headlines were "Ffion
> > >Hague goes mad in public".
> > >
> > Really?  So, if - say - Elton John said the moon was made of green cheese,
> > you would think that was a "pretty eye-popping development"?
> 
> 1700 to 1800 years ago, somebody wrote about a divine savior, similar to
> a half dozen other divine saviors, and ascribed human attributes to a
> fictional entity of earlier spiritual proportions in an Essene cult, and
> that's an "article of faith"?
> 
> > Because Ms.  Kerry has *no* evidence to back up her statements.  They
> > are *pure* conjecture.  But you apparently are saying the mere claim
> > of a problem is an "eye-popping" revelation?
> 
> A mere claim of divinity is a revelation?
> 
> Pot, meet Kettle.
> 
> >
> > Pretty low standards for popping the old eyes, I'd say.
> 
> Please keep your ignorant drivel off the list.  For just one example of
> evidence, sworn depositions by county elections officials were presented
> as evidence to Congress by Representative Conyers that illegal behavior
> was conducted by a Triad representative including instructing county
> elections officials on how to fake the recounts in Ohio.
> 
> In full-disclosure, I happen to be friends with the Media Director of
> the Cobb/LaMarche campaign that initiated the vote recount that brought
> to light the amount of fraud in Ohio.  I also voted to nominate Cobb for
> the US Green Party presidential nominating convention as a delegate
> representing the State of Oregon, was secretary of the state party for
> two years, and was elections administrator for the Oregon State
> nominating convention that sent the majority of its delegates
> representing Cobb to the national convention.
> 
> Does the University of Texas at Dallas pay you to write ignorant
> political tripe?  That's so Republican, to use government subsidies to
> further political agendas.  You should be proud.  I hope your boss is
> too.  Oh wait, he can't...
> 
> http://utdallas.edu/utdgeneral/business/admin_manual/personnel2.htm
> 
> Page D11-270.0 Political Activity and Influence of the UT Dallas
> employee manual essentially says you can't be paid if you use UT Dallas
> resources to influence an election:
> 
> Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12])
>         by lists.grok.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F001774A8
>         for <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>;
>         Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:35:18 +0000 (GMT)
> Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85])
>         by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31853890C3
>         for <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>;
>         Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:35:17 -0600 (CST)
> 
> So you can abide by the law, or be reported to your boss and the local
> newspaper via a letter to the editor.  Post your ignorance on your own
> dime.
> 
> --
> Seth Alan Woolley [seth at positivism.org], SPAM/UCE is unauthorized
> Key id 00BA3AF3 = 8BE0 A72E A47E A92A 0737  F2FF 7A3F 6D3C 00BA 3AF3
> Security Team Leader Source Mage GNU/Linux http://www.sourcemage.org
> 
> 
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