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Message-ID: <20050322234703.331645CC66@lists.grok.org.uk>
From: cdupuis at cccure.org (Clement Dupuis)
Subject: CISSP Test

Good day George,

I will concede with you that ISC2 has had and still has today some inability
to communicate effectively with their membership and the community as a
whole.

Their advertising is aggressive and really makes it look as if you have to
buy your CPE's.  

There are multitude of other ways to get CPE's:

You can write new exam questions
You can read a book
You can subscribe to some of the recognize magazine
You can teach others
You can attend seminars or any other form of security training
You can write articles
You can work on the board of a security organization
You can proctor exams
You can most definitively get CPE for your research if it is published
And the list goes on...

Take care

Clement

Clement Dupuis, CD
CCCure Enterprise Security & Training Inc.
CISSP, GCFW, GCIA, Security+, CEH, CCSA, CCSE, ACE
President/Chief Learning Officer (CLO)
Tel: 954 364 8410 (Florida)
Tel: 819 340 0138 (Quebec)
Fax: 636 773 6328 

Maintainer of :

The CISSP and SSCP Open Study Guides Web Site
http://www.cccure.org    

The Professional Security Testers Warehouse
http://www.professionalsecuritytesters.org   

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[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of george
jetson
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 4:49 PM
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] CISSP Test

The CISSP is a valuable certification - to a point,
but my gripe is with the staying certified process.

ISC2 constantly sends out invitations to get CPEs
(basically continuing education credits) for
certificate holders to get from 10 to 30 credits
towards the required amount of 120 CPEs in 3 yrs, that
cost an exorbitant amount. Prices often range from
700+ to nearly 3 grand. At a median price of 1500
bucks for 30 CPEs it would end up costing 6000 dollars
over 3 yrs just to stay certified. That in my opinion
is just plain stupid. 

The CISSP certification started out as a way to
establish a certificate holders knowledge - - it has
turned into just another money making scheme. I really
don't mind having to have CPEs to stay certified but
being employed in this field counts as nothing -
regardless of the research attached to the position.
You have to go "above the norm" or pay for the CPEs.
Heck we all know what goes on at seminars. Bleh....
worthless for the most point. Lot's of fun but that's
about it.

Well that's my 2 cents..... flame away....

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