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Date: Thu Mar 24 17:10:30 2005
From: skrewz at skrewz.dk (Anders Breindahl)
Subject: Lameness

I know.
I didn't mean to neither stop being a part of this list nor to get it to be 
moderated. As you correctly put it, the list's unmoderated; alas, noone can 
label information "insignifact" here -- not because everything is 
significant, but because noone has or should have that authority. I believe 
that this is the message sent by the list charter, too.

If I did want a moderated version of this list -- thereby putting my trust in 
someone's hands -- I would go for http://www.seifried.org/security/ (thanks 
to Mr. Perriero and Mr. Owen for pointing me to the address).
I personally don't, but this "Asshat Coders" topic might have persuaded 
people. This childish private messaging through FD is the grafitti of 
hackers, and it disgusts me.

I had no intention of starting yet another offtopic discussion -- and unless 
anyone has anything new to say which they find that the world need to know, I 
suggest we end the discussion here.
If you do continue however, don't CC me -- I am on the list, quite obviously.

Regards, Anders Breindahl.

On Thursday 24 March 2005 16:11, Todd Towles wrote:
> Does anyone read the charter?
>
>  This list is unmoderated and everyone else here is happy with this
> fact. Now, John does what he needs to do once in a while and does a good
> job of keeping it on track. FD is about openness and freedom of
> speech..if you wanted a clean list that is moderated, I would suggest
> you start with Security Basics or Bugtaq.
>
> There are also several people that mirror this list and then moderate
> it...but do you want some moderator to tell you what security
> information is important to you? I don't...
>
> -Todd
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Chastain [mailto:dlcmacosx@....com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:41 AM
> > To: Todd Towles
> > Cc: Anders Breindahl; full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
> > Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Lameness
> >
> > It sounds then like its reputation has already been
> > labeled??? Is there a moderator that can take control a
> > little???? and maybe get FD back on the right track????

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