full-disclosure - Re: Case ID 51560370 - Notice of ClaimedInfringement

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Message-ID: <1999452117.20050409000509@Sniff-em.com>
Date: Fri Apr  8 23:05:16 2005
From: Thierry at sniff-em.com (Thierry Zoller)
Subject: Re: Case ID 51560370 - Notice of
	ClaimedInfringement

Dear Jason,

J> I think that entirely depends on the format the file is distributed in.
J> You could take a zipfile and pad it in non critical areas to change the
J> MD5 without creating a substantial difference in the deliverable 
J> content. You could do the same with gzip or bzip formatted files. You
J> could also pad any embedded jpeg images to engineer a collision. There
J> are quite a few opportunities where this method could be used to twiddle
J> the new MD5 without materially changing the content.

Clever approach there, haven't thought about that beforehand.

J> Software that is ~150M in size, it gets redistributed as a new file that
J> is 160M is size but has a collision with your software which is also
J> 160M in size. I imagine there would be some computational time involved
J> to find the appropriate collision but a lot less computational time than
J> finding a perfect match to the original.

If I understood your point correctly and if my knowledge about hash
algos is correct then to my believe the computational time to generate
a collision is exactly the same for the perfect match as it would be
to use an existing file to create a potenatial collision.

-- 
Thierry Zoller