full-disclosure - <Cisco Message> Mike Lynn's controversial Cisco Security Presentation

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Date: Sat Jul 30 03:37:32 2005
From: jasonc at science.org (Jason Coombs)
Subject: <Cisco Message> Mike Lynn's controversial Cisco
	Security Presentation

J.A. Terranson wrote:
> didn't get my copy from Infowarrior.  Nor have I seen any "order".

"On Thursday, Judge Jeffrey White of the United States District Court 
for the Northern District of California issued a permanent injunction 
preventing further distribution of the material (attached). Cisco 
Systems, Inc. and Internet Security Systems, Inc. v. Michael Lynn and 
Black Hat Inc. United States District Court, Northern District of 
California."

http://www.infowarrior.org/users/rforno/lynn-cisco.pdf

Your point seems to be that because your name was not listed in the list 
of Defendants, nor were you referenced in a Does 1-99 placeholder, that 
the order does not apply to you.

I know you're not suggesting that copyright law no longer applies to 
you, or that the .pdf lost its copyright protection the moment somebody 
put it on the Internet.

If you're saying that Judge White's order doesn't apply to anyone other 
than the named Defendants, and that until the order is expanded to 
include the whole of the citizens of the United States, et seq, there is 
no trade secret protection afforded to the document, then I invite you 
to attempt to sell it to a foreign government and we'll see how well you 
are able to convince the court that you did not engage in espionage 
because the material was no longer a trade secret.

Sincerely,

Jason Coombs
jasonc@...ence.org