full-disclosure - Defeating Citi-Bank Virtual Keyboard Protection

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Message-ID: <42F52048.7000401@key2it.com.au>
Date: Sat Aug  6 07:40:58 2005
From: lyal.collins at key2it.com.au (root)
Subject: Defeating Citi-Bank Virtual Keyboard Protection

Aditya Deshmukh wrote:

>The only most secure protection is a one time password with a challenge /
>response scheme. Most of the banks in europe already do this.
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>They give out a calculator like device to the customers and when u want to
>login you are presented with a challenge that you punch into you device
>which spits a response that you enter that into the form....
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>Costly for the bank but very effective security for the customer and bank in
>terms of gain in security and decrease in losses due to fraud ....
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>- Aditya
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Respectfully, I disagree.
Although I never attended, this year's IT Underground conference in 
poland promised a hand on session breaking OTP tokens.  As Schneier 
says, OT token device merely force a tactical shift by the attacker, not 
a permanent fix. 
The credit card industry's 'fixes' have only been effective for weeks to 
months over the past decade, so I don't consider OTPs will make much 
difference relative to the cost in the mid-long term.

Lyal