full-disclosure - "responsible disclosure" explanation (anexample of the fallacy of idealistic thought)

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Message-ID: <1717330673-1123783612-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-11145-@engine132>
Date: Thu Aug 11 19:07:14 2005
From: jasonc at science.org (Jason Coombs)
Subject: "responsible disclosure" explanation (anexample
	of the fallacy of idealistic thought)

Florian Weimer wrote:
> The implicit message that other
> disclosure processes were
> irresponsible was invaluable.

Invaluable; adjective

'Valuable beyond estimation. Priceless.'

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=invaluable

You've got that right. It has proved invaluable to marketing efforts, lobbyist campaigns to get new legislation enacted, and disinformation spread by self-interested bad people.

(I know you're not one of them)

Sincerely,

Jason Coombs
jasonc@...ence.org

?A Trojan is malicious code that gives an attacker future unauthorized access to a computer or its data. Nobody with common sense refers to spyware as Trojans.?

-----Original Message-----
From: Florian Weimer <fw@...eb.enyo.de>
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 19:15:27 
To:Matthew Murphy <mattmurphy@...rr.com>
Cc:full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] "responsible disclosure" explanation (an
	example of the fallacy of idealistic thought)

* Matthew Murphy:

> Let me just define "responsible disclosure" first of all, so as to 
> dissociate myself from the lunatic lawyers of certain corporations 
> (Cisco, HP, ISS, et al) who define "responsible disclosure" as 
> "non-disclosure".  The generally accepted definition of responsible 
> disclosure is simply allowing vendors advance notification to fix 
> vulnerabilities in their products before information describing such 
> vulnerabilities is released.

Back in 2001, this was called "full disclosure", see:

  <http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/policy.html>

(The document is probably even older, use archive.org to find out.)

In retrospect, "responsible disclosure" was always more a marketing
term than anything else (just like "blended threat").  The implicit
message that other disclosure processes were irresponsible was
invaluable.
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