full-disclosure - Re: pnp worm unknown variant

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Message-ID: <200508171603.j7HG3cNk014200@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Wed Aug 17 17:03:48 2005
From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu)
Subject: Re: pnp worm unknown variant - post
	infectionactions 

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:16:04 CDT, "Madison, Marc" said:

> lab has compiled hashes of know child porn, they use the hashes to
> perform quick scans of suspected criminals computers in order to
> facilitate a quicker response to the investigating agency in the case.

OK.. So we found the hash, therefor the guy is guilty..

> And if I'm not mistaken Metasploit with out any changes is extremely
> noisy which makes it easy to identify as Metasploit.

And if we're facilitating a "quicker response", how do we reconcile that with
taking the time to identify a Metasploit that *has* been changed to be less
noisy?

"We found the hash, we didn't see any signs of a stock noisy Metasploit, and
it would have taken too long to look for a modified Metasploit version we've never
seen before, so the guy is guilty..."

I think that's *exactly* the situation that Jason is complaining about...
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