full-disclosure - RE: Example firewall script

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Message-ID: <20050827153601.U65052@ubzr.zsa.bet>
Date: Sat Aug 27 21:39:35 2005
From: measl at mfn.org (J.A. Terranson)
Subject: RE: Example firewall script

For the record,  I just got a phone call from this guy - apparently he's
afraid that because I call bullshit on him in public, I'm also going to
"fill [his] email box with spam and stuff".

Very entertaining.  He even calls back and leaves messages when you hang
up on him!  Of course, while he's willing to call you on your cell phone
to bitch and moan, he's also a pussy: he hides his calling number.

HEY - ERIC!!!

FUCK OFF.

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, ericscher@....com wrote:

> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 16:27:14 -0400
> From: "ericscher@....com" <ericscher@....com>
> To: measl@....org
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] RE: Example firewall script
>
>
> As does Juniper, as does.....
>
> >> Your Point?
>
>
>
> Uh... No.  Traffic shaping may make use of ACLs, but ACL != Shaping.
>
> >>Sorry, but...
> >>By definition, ACLs are a traffic shaping device.
>
>
>
>
> Bzzzt.  *All* "Autonomous Systems" are multihomed.  Thats the definition
> of AS.
>
> >> That's completely wrong. The definition of an "AS" is not that it's
> multihomed, and not all AS's are multihomed.
>
>
>
> Again, wrong.  ACLS are involved, but what you are talking about are
> called ROUTING DECISIONS, and ACLS != Routing Decisions.
>
> >> Sorry, but that's EXACTLY what they are. They are a set of instructions
> by which a routing device DECIDES where to route packets.
>
>
> This is true for *most* ACL implementations, but NOT for all.  Again, you
> are trying to paint the entire world with your only available [Cisco]
> brush, and it is making you look like a self-important fool.
>
> >> Sorry, but... you're wrong again. The very nature of how ACL's work mean
> that you move from specific to general.
>
>
> I can probably find a few good ones to recommend - if you will promise to
> read them prior to spewing more of this.
>
> >> Based on your statements so far, I would not be inclined to follow your
> suggestions.
>
>
>
> And still managed to screw up most of what you said.
>
> >> Actually, what I said is entirely correct.
>
>
> That's expected: hot gas expands.
>
> >> You would know.
>
>
>
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>
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-- 
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
sysadmin@....org
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bolstered by faith born of intuitions flowing from the very beliefs they
are intended to support.

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