full-disclosure - Third issue of the Zone-H Comics

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Message-ID: <9E97F0997FB84D42B221B9FB203EFA27017D95C1@dc1ms2.msad.brookshires.net>
Date: Tue Sep 27 19:31:13 2005
From: toddtowles at brookshires.com (Todd Towles)
Subject: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics

N3td3v worte:
>I'm sure the feds have ways of detecting cyber terrorism, without the
help of public sites like Zone-H. And if they don't, why?

Agreed, so what are you complaining about again? You first post was
about how it was evil and how the government needs to do something about
it. Then you say they don't need the help of Zone-H. 

Doesn't your "security group" have exploits on it? I guess we need to
call the feds about that. Since you are giving script kiddies the stuff
they need to do "terrorism". 

We better close packetstorm and eEye and CERT, since they conduct
research on attacks and a thousand other things.

N3td3v, you know that information is dual use. Some use it for good and
some use it for bad. Information is netural. Zone-H does provide
research data. It doesn't do the facements and the defacemnts would
happen without Zone-H. Except that you and I wouldn't know about 90% of
them. So if you care to not know about them, then don't get to the site.
But big compaines and the government do go to the site...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk 
> [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of n3td3v
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 12:39 PM
> To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Third issue of the Zone-H Comics
> 
> Why hasn't a big company like Symantec bought Zone-H then, if 
> its such a good service? Like Symantec did for Securityfocus 
> and stuff.
> 
> I mean its not like the real hackers don't brag about the 
> vulnerabilities and exploits they discover, is it?
> 
> You would think a big company like Symantec would want to own 
> Zone-H, since thats where the malicious side of 
> Securityfocus's Bugtraq is reported.
> 
> I'm sure the feds have ways of detecting cyber terrorism, 
> without the help of public sites like Zone-H. And if they don't, why?
> 
> On 9/27/05, Andre Ludwig <andre.ludwig@...il.com> wrote:
> >
> > Zone-h does much more of a service then you would think at first 
> > glance.  Just think of all those feds pouring over that site 
> > collecting evidence and building profiles of groups.
> >
> > Let the kiddies continue to brag,  it makes those poor "i just did 
> > learnded computors" cops have some easy fruit to pick.
> >
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