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Message-ID: <E1EMNVn-000HLO-00.phased-mail-ru@f36.mail.ru>
Date: Mon Oct  3 11:25:44 2005
From: phased at mail.ru (phased)
Subject: Bigger burger roll needed

"Put information infront of the user, on unrelated pages. Keep doing it and eventually users will educated on a reasonable level to better check and patch systems, before the authors of malicious code and script kids get to them first." n3td3v

No, your receptionist really couldnt give a shit, they have enough to do without
reading security advisories spammed to them every day.  What you would find is
that they will probably learn more about adding a spam filter than securing
their PC.  Educating end users on risk is good, but you cant expect them to
patch their own systems especially when someone else is being paid to, or do
you want to be out of a job? :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Virus Friendly <virus.friendly@...il.com>
To: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 04:47:09 -0400
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Bigger burger roll needed

> I like how security professionals see themselves as part of the intellectual
> elite and the "computer users" as the ignorant hoards.
> In a field where anyone is call an "expert", and 16 year olds can pass a
> CISSP, how is it that these "experts" forget they are only a certification
> away from being clueless.
> 
>  On 10/1/05, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello to security community,
> >
> > n3td3v thought you might like to be alerted to his latest internet
> > posting on corporate security and the relation between corporations,
> > the consumer..... and computer security.
> >
> > Details:
> >
> >
> > http://news.com.com/5208-12-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=10054&messageID=72865&start=-196
> >
> > Yours truely,
> >
> > n3td3v
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