full-disclosure - IMLogic telling porkies about Yahoo

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Message-ID: <07f201c5d11a$35d1bd60$0e3eac18@MLANDE>
Date: Sat Oct 15 00:38:36 2005
From: mlande at bellsouth.net (Mary Landesman)
Subject: IMLogic telling porkies about Yahoo

> Yahoo IM has yet to have an IM worm on its network

> There has been no Yahoo IM worm, period.

Both quotes from your blog post. And I answered both your own statements,
YIM has had worms and there have been Yahoo IM worms, period.

But since the vast majority of IM worms don't send binaries, I'd be curious
to know exactly what role your honeypots play. Are these Yahoo's honeypots,
sniffing traffic looking for suspicious chat messages - or are they confined
to your own chat sessions with friends? Also, doesn't Yahoo IM first try
server brokering but resort to server proxy if the first attempt fails? If
so, how can you be sure how much traffic your honeypot is even seeing,
assuming it's a Yahoo honeypot and not a homegrown sniff your own.

-- Mary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "n3td3v" <xploitable@...il.com>
To: <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] IMLogic telling porkies about Yahoo

Theres a difference from capability to attack on Yahoo and attacks
actually happening. I have yet to see any active worms on Yahoo IM
network. Most of my honeypots are all bursting with phishing attempts
trying to get the user account, falling short of the worm claims.

You're aware of those worms by seeing them on your honeypots or have
you simply compiled that list from searching the internet?

On 10/14/05, Mary Landesman <mlande@...lsouth.net> wrote:
> I can't speak to the IMLogic figures, but these are a few Yahoo IM worms
of
> which I am aware.
>
> Guap.a
> Gunsan
> Lile.a
> Oscabot.k
> StarGames
> Velkbot.a
> Yimp.a
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