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Date: Fri Nov 25 15:07:47 2005
From: toddtowles at brookshires.com (Todd Towles)
Subject: Return of the Phrack High Council

N3td3v,

I have several groups on Yahoo Groups...does that make a expert? Nope.
Same goes for you..you setup a free Google group and then just pour
feeds into it. People might as well get a RSS Reader and go it on their
own.

You hate blackhats, you have whitehats and you hate people that don't
pay you your "respect"...if you are so big..then why are you hiding your
ID? People that have nothing to hide...normally don't. 

As for your planned "death"..it isn't working so well is it? I saw
around 20 comments on CNET Tallback yesterday from your name alone...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk 
> [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of n3td3v
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 8:59 AM
> To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Return of the Phrack High Council
> 
> Youre playing with fire. Fire that cannot be put out with 
> words but only inflame the situation of which you are misinformed.
> 
> Your opinion is noted, yet you dont have a right to gag my 
> opinion just because you don't agree with it.
> 
> I have more right to be on a security list than random people 
> like you who have never contributed security related 
> information to the international security community, or have 
> a mailing list of your own, and helped vendors behind the 
> scenes to protect their security from script kids who wish to 
> destroy it.
> 
> I have done all above listed and continue to do so. If anyone 
> is trolling, its individuals such as yourself and infosecbofh 
> who have expressed their hatred for me and my underground 
> security group in public. Finally, is your web site very 
> secure? Best go check
> 
> On 11/25/05, Cassidy Macfarlane 
> <cmacfarlane@...mmond-miller.co.uk> wrote:
> > OK, OK, I ignored the troll earlier about Schneier, but please
> > *don't* now start having a go at Phrack ffs.
> >
> > I thought that you had killed off the n3td3v 'personality'?
> >
> > I realise I am writing a personal opinion email with no new 
> security 
> > info, But there was no point in you adding your 0.02p to this 
> > discussion.
> >
> > 'outdated'??? Have you read 'smashing the stack'?
> >
> > No?
> >
> > Thanks for playing.
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